CFI to United Airlines
08-27-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
How many people are in the hiring pool for UAL that CFI at that school?
08-27-2018, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockonn
Good afternoon all,
I have been hired by LAT Arizona (Flight School) to work as a CFI for 1.5 years to then transition directly to United Airlines. It is by far, the quickest way to get to a legacy carrier! I wanted to start this thread to inform anyone interested about the program to help guide you through the process. If you are approaching minimum 500 hours or have more, please feel free to private message me to get more details on the program.
I have been hired by LAT Arizona (Flight School) to work as a CFI for 1.5 years to then transition directly to United Airlines. It is by far, the quickest way to get to a legacy carrier! I wanted to start this thread to inform anyone interested about the program to help guide you through the process. If you are approaching minimum 500 hours or have more, please feel free to private message me to get more details on the program.
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08-28-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockonn
It is as described. So far they have had 3 complete the training and are completed with IOE with UAL, not Express. Roughly takes 2 years in total from initial start date at LAT Arizona to start date at UAL. The kicker for the program is they waive the 1000 PIC jet time requirement.
I am digging for the catch.
08-28-2018, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dbdevkc
How would you ever move from the right seat to the left without having any 121 PIC turbine time? Would United actually do that - make someone a Captain with no previous 121 PIC time?
I am digging for the catch.
I am digging for the catch.
If you needed 121 PIC to upgrade then, well, nobody could ever upgrade.
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08-28-2018, 03:24 PM
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You would think there is something else going on here. Something they are not stating outright. I don't know, it seems a little weird. But who knows - perhaps they are testing this out as just another avenue to get pilots.
But it does state the following:
"earn your EASA flight instructor license"
and
"While preparing to be a United pilot, you’ll be a Lufthansa Aviation Training employee teaching future airline pilots for the airlines of the Lufthansa Group."
So it sounds like you'd be teaching European student pilots to EASA standards for Lufthansa. I'd love to know what United gets out of this new FOs with no 121 PIC time...
But it does state the following:
"earn your EASA flight instructor license"
and
"While preparing to be a United pilot, you’ll be a Lufthansa Aviation Training employee teaching future airline pilots for the airlines of the Lufthansa Group."
So it sounds like you'd be teaching European student pilots to EASA standards for Lufthansa. I'd love to know what United gets out of this new FOs with no 121 PIC time...
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08-28-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dbdevkc
So it sounds like you'd be teaching European student pilots to EASA standards for Lufthansa. I'd love to know what United gets out of this new FOs with no 121 PIC time...
Why this school? No clue. Perhaps some sweetheart deal between Star Alliance members to help keep Lufthansa's pipeline flowing?
Anyhow, plenty of guys hired without previous 121 PIC from the regionals, corporate, military, etc. Although these people had far more experience than teaching basic flight skills.
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08-28-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dbdevkc
I'd love to know what United gets out of this new FOs with no 121 PIC time...
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
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08-28-2018, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer
They get: pilots who have certain minimums (four-year degree, ATP, etc.) and I guess what we could call "closely-screened individuals" (pilots who passed the Hogan psychological test, have no bad references, have been observed by UAL for 1.5 years, and have 1.5 years of reports from the flight school regarding personality, work ethic, etc.)
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
08-30-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer
They get: pilots who have certain minimums (four-year degree, ATP, etc.) and I guess what we could call "closely-screened individuals" (pilots who passed the Hogan psychological test, have no bad references, have been observed by UAL for 1.5 years, and have 1.5 years of reports from the flight school regarding personality, work ethic, etc.)
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
Even the USAF puts low time pilots into giant transport planes without too much difficulty.
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