CFI to United Airlines
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They get: pilots who have certain minimums (four-year degree, ATP, etc.) and I guess what we could call "closely-screened individuals" (pilots who passed the Hogan psychological test, have no bad references, have been observed by UAL for 1.5 years, and have 1.5 years of reports from the flight school regarding personality, work ethic, etc.)
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
But what we are all wondering is, do these things offset no 121 PIC time, no 121 time at all, no turboprop time, no jet time, no "large airplane time", no dual-pilot CRM time, etc. Time will tell.
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They picked this school because of the style of teaching that is accomplished at LAT Arizona. One individual mentioned accurately that European carriers like Lufthansa and their subsidiaries are all putting 300 hour pilots into the right seats of their A320s... the students that arrive to our flight school are handpicked after days of psychological evaluations, altitude tests, as well as 1 year of EASA theoretical ground school. We are training the 9% that pass all prerequisites to get to the core ab initio training phase in Goodyear, Az. Our teaching style here is not your normal part 61 or 141 flight instructor school. We teach the multipilot concept to a single pilot. All the call outs that are conducted at an airline are done on each flight we take the students on.
While many will deem this unfair to all those that have “paid their dues” at least those of you that are interested need to know that it is not as easy as “become a Flight instructor and go to United”. The training is intense, and it is all designed to have the students (and United CPP flight instructors) be ready to take the next step which will be for both of us (students and instructors) a step into an airline cockpit atmosphere. No catch, nor gimmicks. Believe me, I was the top skeptic out there until I applied last year, interviewed with the companies and was denied, than reapplied a year later to be going through the training now. Don’t be ignorant if your interested, you will miss the best opportunity for low time pilots out there.
While many will deem this unfair to all those that have “paid their dues” at least those of you that are interested need to know that it is not as easy as “become a Flight instructor and go to United”. The training is intense, and it is all designed to have the students (and United CPP flight instructors) be ready to take the next step which will be for both of us (students and instructors) a step into an airline cockpit atmosphere. No catch, nor gimmicks. Believe me, I was the top skeptic out there until I applied last year, interviewed with the companies and was denied, than reapplied a year later to be going through the training now. Don’t be ignorant if your interested, you will miss the best opportunity for low time pilots out there.
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You need to tread very carefully here, bro. Don't come on here to brag and gloat about how exclusive and elite your flight school claims to be and all of that non sense. No offense to your special program with UA, but you and the others presented with similar opportunities are no more special than any other group of pilots preceding you. You all just happened to be born in the right decade.
And before everyone starts singing the praises of ab-initio airline training, don't forget that U.S. carriers used to do something similar to this decades ago but simply have not had to do this in recent times due to the existing availability of qualified pilots. Good for you if this works out, but be humble about it and realize this is purely excellent timing and has about zero to do with your piloting abilities.
Carry on
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They picked this school because of the style of teaching that is accomplished at LAT Arizona. One individual mentioned accurately that European carriers like Lufthansa and their subsidiaries are all putting 300 hour pilots into the right seats of their A320s... the students that arrive to our flight school are handpicked after days of psychological evaluations, altitude tests, as well as 1 year of EASA theoretical ground school. We are training the 9% that pass all prerequisites to get to the core ab initio training phase in Goodyear, Az. Our teaching style here is not your normal part 61 or 141 flight instructor school. We teach the multipilot concept to a single pilot. All the call outs that are conducted at an airline are done on each flight we take the students on.
While many will deem this unfair to all those that have “paid their dues” at least those of you that are interested need to know that it is not as easy as “become a Flight instructor and go to United”. The training is intense, and it is all designed to have the students (and United CPP flight instructors) be ready to take the next step which will be for both of us (students and instructors) a step into an airline cockpit atmosphere. No catch, nor gimmicks. Believe me, I was the top skeptic out there until I applied last year, interviewed with the companies and was denied, than reapplied a year later to be going through the training now. Don’t be ignorant if your interested, you will miss the best opportunity for low time pilots out there.
While many will deem this unfair to all those that have “paid their dues” at least those of you that are interested need to know that it is not as easy as “become a Flight instructor and go to United”. The training is intense, and it is all designed to have the students (and United CPP flight instructors) be ready to take the next step which will be for both of us (students and instructors) a step into an airline cockpit atmosphere. No catch, nor gimmicks. Believe me, I was the top skeptic out there until I applied last year, interviewed with the companies and was denied, than reapplied a year later to be going through the training now. Don’t be ignorant if your interested, you will miss the best opportunity for low time pilots out there.
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Funny how people react on forums. Last two people to comment on this thread, it clearly is not intended for you. For all the others that are just starting their flight training, a current CFI, or are simply interested in options out there... this is for you. PM me if your interested as it will yield better, honest results than rummaging through the garbage people who have zero idea of the program are slapping at the keyboard.
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