subcribetolife

I have decided to start flight training in Phoenix AZ because of the good weather here. I want to fully dedicate myself to flight training until i get my cfi. The problem is everyplace that i go to writes one thing on their website and when I get there they cant give me straight answers on cost availability etc. Are there any honest flight schools in Phoenix that have reasonably good prices? I see a lot of people write how much atp overcharges but when i look at the hours vs costs it seems like a lot of so called mom and pop places would come out to be the same price. Any recommendations? I really dont want to blow money jumping from place to place until i find a good school. thanks!

misterpretzel

Fly at Goodyear and southwest flight center are good places

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subcribetolife

I was just at Fly at goodyear. On the first day the instructor charged me for the time it took him to fill out my paperwork and set me up. I thought to myself well thats not really fair, but I let it slide. Then on the second day he sends me out to do the preflight checklist by myself while he talks to his buddy in the office, barely acknowledging my existence, and at the end of the lesson charges me for that time as well. I thought it was extremely unfair and let him know so he said that he doesnt want to be my instructor because thats how he teaches .There is also no sort of lesson plan there so I would have to really trust the instructor not to squeeze more out of me than is necessary but with the way this guy was acting I obviously do not trust him. The location is good for me and the prices are good. Can you recommend a specific instructor?

misterpretzel

If you're looking for lesson plans you might want to consider a part 141. I didn't train there but a friend did, I'll have to ask him who his instructor was, but he really enjoyed it.

I would say that if you don't think it's fair to be charged for that time, tell them!

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BobSacamano

Call Westwind at KDVT. They are primarily 141 but I think they are starting a Part 61 operation as well. Could end up being a best-of-both-worlds situation (resources and professionalism of a big school but without having to deal with the 141 stuff).

PT6 Flyer

I second the idea of Westwind.

PerfInit

Aside from the WW flight school recommendation, consider that DVT is one of the busiest G/A airports in the country. You must factor in the traffic volume and the hobbs time may be “ticking away” dollars as you wait in line for takeoff and #8 in the pattern for landing.

Regarding OP’s concerns about the bad experince at Fly Goodyear- Have you shared those with the Owner, Chief Instructor, or DPE on staff? It is unfortunate that you had a bad experince there, and that should be corrected immediately so it does not happen in the future.

subcribetolife

They kind of have a small office with no one but the instructor in it most of the time. So i really dont have anyone to talk to lol. The owner has an email posted on his website but no phone. I just sort of dont trust them now. I walked into atp in Scottsdale Im pretty sure that im just going to sign on there. With them I know exactly what I am getting. It seems to make sense. Thanks guys for the recommendations.

joepilot

The school is not that important--the instructor is the important thing. Your experience, unfortunately, is not that uncommon.

Many pilots look at the CFI job as time building until they have enough hours to fly "real" airplanes.

Try to find an "old fart" instructor, like a retired airline or military pilot who is doing the job because he likes it. You will learn more faster than you would from a new CFI that got his CFI last week.


Joe

misterpretzel

That is completely subjective


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