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MikeInTx 04-24-2007 05:54 PM

PIC (Professional Instrument Courses, Inc.)
 
http://www.iflyifr.com/index.htm

Anyone know of this organization? They claim Instrument Rating in 10 days, training 8 hours each day. The instructor comes to you. No mention of prices though. Sounds too good to be true.

Any info based on personal experience with this organization would be greatly appreciated.

To all the experienced instrument pilots out there: What are your thoughts on this? Is it advisable (safe) to go through such an accelerated instrument program?

Thanks,

Mike in Texas

Pilotpip 04-24-2007 06:48 PM

Isn't there a thread on 10 day instrument rating courses in here already?

Get your instrument rating in 10 days? SURE.

Be capable of flying IMC single pilot in 10 days? GOD NO.

If there is one rating that you shouldn't try and cut corners with this is the one. If you're looking for a career you need to build time for your commercial anyway so use that time to become an experienced and competent instrument pilot.

de727ups 04-24-2007 07:37 PM

PIC has been around forever. They do come to you, they bring an ATC610 ground trainer, and you have to provide the rest. Written passed before starting.

You can get the rating quick this way. I agree it's not ideal and one should "test the waters", in real life, with a CFII.

phshfry 04-25-2007 12:44 PM

I have heard that the majority of the training is on the sim when you go with PIC. I used Career Pilot School (when it was Siegel Aviation). They have a few different airplanes to choose from, but you have to go to Kansas City. GATTS is another good company, but again, you have to travel to Manhattan, KS.

de727ups 04-25-2007 01:03 PM

Under part 61, the most you could use the ground trainer for is 20 hours.

phshfry 04-25-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 155373)
Under part 61, the most you could use the ground trainer for is 20 hours.

Right. And that is a lot of hours in that type of ground trainer.....:o

shamrok 04-25-2007 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 154912)
Isn't there a thread on 10 day instrument rating courses in here already?

Get your instrument rating in 10 days? SURE.

Be capable of flying IMC single pilot in 10 days? GOD NO.

If there is one rating that you shouldn't try and cut corners with this is the one. If you're looking for a career you need to build time for your commercial anyway so use that time to become an experienced and competent instrument pilot.

I have to agree. Instrument training is the time you will learn some of the most important skills and should not be rushed. Take the time to absorb and experience all types of scenarios with a CFII and he/she will let you know when your ready to be a competent instrument pilot. This rating is all about quality not quantity and price. If you get your Inst. rating in 10 days I wouldn't fly single pilot IFR without a CFII until you have established good personal mins. for true IMC. Then work yor way from there, better to be safe than being another statistic. Good luck!

MikeInTx 04-25-2007 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by shamrok (Post 155568)
I have to agree. Instrument training is the time you will learn some of the most important skills and should not be rushed. Take the time to absorb and experience all types of scenarios with a CFII and he/she will let you know when your ready to be a competent instrument pilot. This rating is all about quality not quantity and price.

My thoughts exactly..think I'll stick with my CFII/FBO

Thanks all

Mike

pvuproduct 04-29-2007 06:40 PM

I totally agree that you probably don't want to rush that rating, but if you want a fantastic book on instrument flight, check out "The Instrument Flight Training Manual" by Peter Dogan, and developed by PIC. It got me through my checkride and more than one "down to minimums" approach.

West442 09-26-2012 09:40 AM

PIC is not professional
 
I noticed that this is an old thread, but if anyone else finds it, I wanted to share my experience with PIC. In short - they are not a professional service. They expect that you loan your personal "second" car to the instructor (because apparently anyone who has an airplane must own a spare car that they feel no liability in letting a stranger drive for 5 days). They charge you more than you agreed upon charge upfront "just in case" you go over, will not provide any written documentation on why they charged you more, do not provide an itemized invoice, and will not discuss or refund the overcharges because they have no paper trail to say if you are right or wrong in your claim. Not a professional way to do business. The instructor was nice enough, but the whole system with Professional Instrument Courses Inc. was an unprofessional mess.


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