5 Questions for CFI's
06-26-2019, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Yes.....many GA pilots flying SEL consider night flying an additional hazard. Guess I was very risky when I was younger as I flew a lot at night because I liked it (and still do!)
Keep those planes in the air... I spoke to insurance and they have no policy for not training at night.
06-26-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by vpbuzz
If you are instructing, making $45,000/yr and I offered you the second shift 4-11PM for instruction with 140 hours/mo flying time and added a $10,000 bonus on salary, would instructors take it and would students if they could save 10% on school costs?
Keep those planes in the air... I spoke to insurance and they have no policy for not training at night.
Keep those planes in the air... I spoke to insurance and they have no policy for not training at night.
When I instructed at night no one got to chose
06-26-2019, 11:00 AM
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You can learn online yes but it takes a good instructor to connect the dots and make you understand.
For example you can become familiar with but not understand any of the following online:
Ground reference maneuvers
Take offs and landings
Emergency procedures
And so on...
Besides you need to brief and debrief lessons, that’s 30min easy, 15 min on each end.
That leaves you only an additional 30 min of meaningful groundschool per flight hour.
Dual flighthour $200+/hr
Ground school $60/hr
I can give you 3.5 hrs of ground for every hour of flight.
If I give you 15 hrs extra ground and save you 5 hrs of frustration in the airplane you’re still ahead.
For example you can become familiar with but not understand any of the following online:
Ground reference maneuvers
Take offs and landings
Emergency procedures
And so on...
Besides you need to brief and debrief lessons, that’s 30min easy, 15 min on each end.
That leaves you only an additional 30 min of meaningful groundschool per flight hour.
Dual flighthour $200+/hr
Ground school $60/hr
I can give you 3.5 hrs of ground for every hour of flight.
If I give you 15 hrs extra ground and save you 5 hrs of frustration in the airplane you’re still ahead.
06-26-2019, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by vpbuzz
Thanks Sargent.
Sounds like it was well run and highly profitable school.
They were in business for quite a long while
Did they buy new aircraft?
They were leasebacks owned by another party. They were 80% newer than a few years old with a few rare exceptions
Did you think that the school was a great place to learn too?
A little to rigid for my liking and structured, but yes, the success rate was high.
Sounds to me that the CFI's and students were in a good place. Win-Win
Here is another comment for thought.
I computed that a new pilot starting today and flies 30 years as Airline pilot will have a lifetime income of over $4.5 million. If year 29 pay is $175,000.
How much is a year of training or school costing you today if your earning $0?
Anyone?
I can tell you that it can be WAY less expensive if you do your research and are smart about it. Wild guess but I think $75k for a 4 year degree and ratings is possible if not joining the military and using their GI bill. Airline career earnings? Sounds about right but $175k at year 29 pay is not even close. Most any pilot with 29 years seniority at their airline is at $300+
Sounds like it was well run and highly profitable school.
They were in business for quite a long while
Did they buy new aircraft?
They were leasebacks owned by another party. They were 80% newer than a few years old with a few rare exceptions
Did you think that the school was a great place to learn too?
A little to rigid for my liking and structured, but yes, the success rate was high.
Sounds to me that the CFI's and students were in a good place. Win-Win
Here is another comment for thought.
I computed that a new pilot starting today and flies 30 years as Airline pilot will have a lifetime income of over $4.5 million. If year 29 pay is $175,000.
How much is a year of training or school costing you today if your earning $0?
Anyone?
I can tell you that it can be WAY less expensive if you do your research and are smart about it. Wild guess but I think $75k for a 4 year degree and ratings is possible if not joining the military and using their GI bill. Airline career earnings? Sounds about right but $175k at year 29 pay is not even close. Most any pilot with 29 years seniority at their airline is at $300+
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