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Old 08-13-2019, 12:39 PM   #1  
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Default Military R-ATP with less than 750hrs mil

Hey guys,

Had a question about the R-ATP 750 hr requirement... itís pretty simple...

What if youíre a military aviator who gets out with less than 750hrs?

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You're right, it's pretty simple. You need to get more hours.
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You're right, it's pretty simple. You need to get more hours.
Yup, what he said.

But I think what you're really asking... as long as you're a rated military aviator, it doesn't matter where you get the 750. So you can fly as a civilian and will be eligible for an R-ATP once you hit 750 hours total, any combination of mil + civ.

Assuming you did not get your wings removed for cause by the mil, then you lose the mil R-ATP eligibility.
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What's your goal? How many hours? Planning on going to regionals? As long as you get your FW hours and end up with more than 750 you're fine. Doesn't have to be 750 mil hours, just graduate from military training and have >750 hours TT.
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So this became a discussion. There’s a dude who voluntarily requested to stop flying and the debate was if he was still eligible for rATP. He didn’t lose his wings.
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So this became a discussion. Thereís a dude who voluntarily requested to stop flying and the debate was if he was still eligible for rATP. He didnít lose his wings.
Still eligible. The R-ATP is granted on basis of earning and retaining military wings, not any set amount of mil flying or willingness to do more. The only exclusion is for being removed from flight status for cause:

61.160 (a) Except for a person who has been removed from flying status for lack of proficiency or because of a disciplinary action involving aircraft operations, a U.S. military pilot or former U.S. military pilot may apply for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating or an airline transport pilot certificate concurrently with an airplane type rating with a minimum of 750 hours of total time as a pilot if the pilot presents:
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So this became a discussion. Thereís a dude who voluntarily requested to stop flying and the debate was if he was still eligible for rATP. He didnít lose his wings.
Did he ever meet an FEB and if so, what was the outcome?
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Did he ever meet an FEB and if so, what was the outcome?
He had a human factors board... just had a lot going on personally. Def wasn’t best pilot, but never got in trouble. They recommended him to CO, who is allowing him to redes, which I think he wants, but he kept his wings. No FEB.
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He had a human factors board... just had a lot going on personally. Def wasnít best pilot, but never got in trouble. They recommended him to CO, who is allowing him to redes, which I think he wants, but he kept his wings. No FEB.
If it was no fault, heís just as eligible as anyone else. He might need to convince an AME or the FAA his human factors have resolved satisfactorily and if he ever actually received a medical diagnosis and/or treatment, he will possibly need a psych clearance. But a lot of people were removed from HRP/PRP due to situational problems and cleared right back in once the situation had time to resolve or for the person to adjust to it (ugly divorces especially).

If there was a diagnosed medical issue, getting copies of it and a statement from the Flight surgeonís office that he was medically cleared to return to those duties would be helpful if heís still active.
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