Tips on flying
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Tips on flying
What's up guys!
I started flight training in November( NC )and try to fly 2 or 3 times a week but weather has been so crazy lately. I have just reach double digits on my log book. The training is going great. I love it and can't wait until my next lesson. working towards my solo. I actually just took 2 weeks off work and flying for vacation and to study for my written.
My CFI has notice I have develop some bad habits and has gave me tips on how to fix them, he says a lot of it just comes with experience but I wanted to come here to see if anyone else has some extra tips
First problem
I can't hold altitude. He will instruct me to go to a certain altitude, I have no problem getting there once I'm there, I will start to focus on something else he is saying and before I know it i'm above altitude.
next
When taking off and landing it's very difficult to keep wings leveled and maybe this is just wrist strength but I tend to start moving my wrist in one direction or the other. he says I also do this when I shift my focus, I will start to just make a turn.
any tips for a first pager ?
I started flight training in November( NC )and try to fly 2 or 3 times a week but weather has been so crazy lately. I have just reach double digits on my log book. The training is going great. I love it and can't wait until my next lesson. working towards my solo. I actually just took 2 weeks off work and flying for vacation and to study for my written.
My CFI has notice I have develop some bad habits and has gave me tips on how to fix them, he says a lot of it just comes with experience but I wanted to come here to see if anyone else has some extra tips
First problem
I can't hold altitude. He will instruct me to go to a certain altitude, I have no problem getting there once I'm there, I will start to focus on something else he is saying and before I know it i'm above altitude.
next
When taking off and landing it's very difficult to keep wings leveled and maybe this is just wrist strength but I tend to start moving my wrist in one direction or the other. he says I also do this when I shift my focus, I will start to just make a turn.
any tips for a first pager ?
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What's up guys!
I started flight training in November( NC )and try to fly 2 or 3 times a week but weather has been so crazy lately. I have just reach double digits on my log book. The training is going great. I love it and can't wait until my next lesson. working towards my solo. I actually just took 2 weeks off work and flying for vacation and to study for my written.
My CFI has notice I have develop some bad habits and has gave me tips on how to fix them, he says a lot of it just comes with experience but I wanted to come here to see if anyone else has some extra tips
First problem
I can't hold altitude. He will instruct me to go to a certain altitude, I have no problem getting there once I'm there, I will start to focus on something else he is saying and before I know it i'm above altitude. This is common for new pilots. You need to develop a "scan". You may or may not be familiar with what a scan is. Basically, you are checking different flight instruments and cross referencing them against each other as you fly. You can get away with having poor "scan" habits when flying VFR but for instrument flying you must have a good scan. I too struggled during private with holding altitude. When I started my instrument training I became MUCH better at holding altitudes. My advice is below:
Get the aircraft trimmed properly. You will still need to make small adjustments every now and then, but you need to learn how to properly trim out an aircraft. Poor trim habits will always give you altitude holding problems.
Make sure you are checking your instruments often. For sure be checking your altimeter often. How often? When I am doing my instrument flying and want to plug in a new airport in the GPS, I may look at the GPS and enter one letter of the airport code at a time(I.E. KSGR.... look at GPS, turn knob for K...... look back at instruments, then look back at GPS, turn knob for S.... etc.) Depending on conditions and how well the aircraft is trimmed, sometimes you only have that long to look away without coming off a heading or altitude. I am not saying you have to look at it every 3 seconds for your VFR flying, but don't go an entire minute without checking the altimeter.
My skills have improved a lot from where I was at my PPL checkride. You will keep getting better but it will take time. Sometimes you will feel like you are stagnate or even regressing. Just try not to get discouraged and enjoy the process.
next
When taking off and landing it's very difficult to keep wings leveled and maybe this is just wrist strength but I tend to start moving my wrist in one direction or the other. he says I also do this when I shift my focus, I will start to just make a turn.
I don't really know what to say about this one. I know one of the aircraft's I currently fly (C172R) it has a tendency to bank to the right in level flight. So in straight and level flight, the aircraft is trying to bank slightly to the right. I have to use left aileron and maybe a touch of rudder to keep wings level.
You may be holding the yoke a certain way where your resting position has the yoke banking plane left or right. I like to have the bottom of my left forearm sitting on the door arm rest. This help to act as a base for my arm and allow me to make inputs in a more controlled manner. However, I don't think I have my arm on the arm rest during take off or landing.
Generally speaking when driving a car and even more so when riding a motorcycle, you go where you look. So if you are turning your head to look to the right or left, perhaps you are subconsciously banking the aircraft in that direction.
Reality is at this point you are so new and are developing. It will take time for you to get proficient at a lot of the flying stuff. Even seeing my abilities from when I did my PPL checkride to now (about halfway through instrument) it is a huge difference in my abilities. (At least to me). Just keep flying and practicing.
any tips for a first pager ?
I started flight training in November( NC )and try to fly 2 or 3 times a week but weather has been so crazy lately. I have just reach double digits on my log book. The training is going great. I love it and can't wait until my next lesson. working towards my solo. I actually just took 2 weeks off work and flying for vacation and to study for my written.
My CFI has notice I have develop some bad habits and has gave me tips on how to fix them, he says a lot of it just comes with experience but I wanted to come here to see if anyone else has some extra tips
First problem
I can't hold altitude. He will instruct me to go to a certain altitude, I have no problem getting there once I'm there, I will start to focus on something else he is saying and before I know it i'm above altitude. This is common for new pilots. You need to develop a "scan". You may or may not be familiar with what a scan is. Basically, you are checking different flight instruments and cross referencing them against each other as you fly. You can get away with having poor "scan" habits when flying VFR but for instrument flying you must have a good scan. I too struggled during private with holding altitude. When I started my instrument training I became MUCH better at holding altitudes. My advice is below:
Get the aircraft trimmed properly. You will still need to make small adjustments every now and then, but you need to learn how to properly trim out an aircraft. Poor trim habits will always give you altitude holding problems.
Make sure you are checking your instruments often. For sure be checking your altimeter often. How often? When I am doing my instrument flying and want to plug in a new airport in the GPS, I may look at the GPS and enter one letter of the airport code at a time(I.E. KSGR.... look at GPS, turn knob for K...... look back at instruments, then look back at GPS, turn knob for S.... etc.) Depending on conditions and how well the aircraft is trimmed, sometimes you only have that long to look away without coming off a heading or altitude. I am not saying you have to look at it every 3 seconds for your VFR flying, but don't go an entire minute without checking the altimeter.
My skills have improved a lot from where I was at my PPL checkride. You will keep getting better but it will take time. Sometimes you will feel like you are stagnate or even regressing. Just try not to get discouraged and enjoy the process.
next
When taking off and landing it's very difficult to keep wings leveled and maybe this is just wrist strength but I tend to start moving my wrist in one direction or the other. he says I also do this when I shift my focus, I will start to just make a turn.
I don't really know what to say about this one. I know one of the aircraft's I currently fly (C172R) it has a tendency to bank to the right in level flight. So in straight and level flight, the aircraft is trying to bank slightly to the right. I have to use left aileron and maybe a touch of rudder to keep wings level.
You may be holding the yoke a certain way where your resting position has the yoke banking plane left or right. I like to have the bottom of my left forearm sitting on the door arm rest. This help to act as a base for my arm and allow me to make inputs in a more controlled manner. However, I don't think I have my arm on the arm rest during take off or landing.
Generally speaking when driving a car and even more so when riding a motorcycle, you go where you look. So if you are turning your head to look to the right or left, perhaps you are subconsciously banking the aircraft in that direction.
Reality is at this point you are so new and are developing. It will take time for you to get proficient at a lot of the flying stuff. Even seeing my abilities from when I did my PPL checkride to now (about halfway through instrument) it is a huge difference in my abilities. (At least to me). Just keep flying and practicing.
any tips for a first pager ?
See my responses above in RED. I am a fairly new private pilot and am working on my instrument rating. So the PPL stuff is all still very fresh for me. Also, since I am not very experienced take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Step one, learn what attitude will hold level flight by looking outside at God’s horizon, then learn what to do with the trim control to neutralize the control pressure. Right now, it’s visual flying, not instruments. You must be able to see level by looking outside at the horizon and hold the wings level the same way. Reference a bold on the windshield screws, the compass, one fist on the glareshield, something consistent. Your “scan” should be outside, “nose is where I want it on the horizon, yes or no?” Check altimeter, too high. OK, lower the nose a bit, get back to altitude, recheck attitude a touch below where it was.
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#5
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Joined APC: Jan 2020
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Get trimmed for hands off level flight and then cover up the instruments and make some turns, climbs and descents. This will force you to get your eyes outside which is essential for VFR flight and you’ll be surprised how much easier it will be to maintain altitude. Also, lighten up on the controls to fingertip pressures. You’re likely over controlling which is common with low hour student pilots. This should help with both issues. Maybe try a different CFI as well?
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