Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Flight Schools and Training
Corona Virus: Impact on Flight Training >

Corona Virus: Impact on Flight Training

Search
Notices
Flight Schools and Training Ratings, building hours, airmanship, CFI topics

Corona Virus: Impact on Flight Training

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-18-2020, 03:48 PM
  #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Default

Unfortunately, a majority of flight instructors are just as interested in building time as they are concerned about providing quality instruction. Some only care about building time.

As flight schools got busier and CFI’s became more valuable it got tougher to screen out the bad instructors.

Some of those “only here to build time” flight instructors have prob existed at every busy flight school. That may be reflected in the reviews. You’ll prob also see a lot of negative reviews about how it’s too expensive. That’s also true everywhere.
DontLookDown is offline  
Old 03-18-2020, 05:35 PM
  #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
cons's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 120
Default

Now is NOT a good time to take out a huge loan for flight training. DO NOT sign on the dotted line, run away!
cons is offline  
Old 03-19-2020, 05:53 AM
  #13  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 221
Default

I agree with what most have said here, do not pre-pay a school. If you have money put away for your training, good for you, use it as your training moves along. If something happens in the industry, or you personally, and you cannot continue your training, at least you still have money in the bank.
flybub is offline  
Old 03-19-2020, 06:56 AM
  #14  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 75
Default

I work in construction management and am training at a 141 school. Every company that we work with (Architects, Engineers, G.C's, etc.) have sent out some kind of memo/plan for dealing with the coronavirus.

A small airplane seems like the perfect place to contract the virus. I asked one of the staff at my flight school if they have seen anything come from management and they said no. Think about all the people flight instructors are exposed to in close proximity and then people touching the flight controls.

I think I am going to wait to keep flying until at the minimum the flight school issues some kind of plan showing how they are keeping the planes/environment cleaned to help prevent spreading the virus. There are lots of healthcare professionals at my flight school who could easily be exposed to the virus at the work and spread it to others at the school.

Just something to think about for everyone else doing training right now. The majority of the people I have been dealing with seem to be pretty lackadaisical in their approach to staying healthy against the virus. Everyone I know in healthcare has said this virus is no joke and they have seen healthy people in critical condition.... not just a 90 year old or someone who has smoked for 40 years.
Douglas89 is offline  
Old 03-19-2020, 07:09 AM
  #15  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 1
Default

I’m wondering the same thing. I’m a cfi at my flight school with 850 hours. 150 hours away from the airlines... I’m wondering if I should stick around there for a while and keep instructing? Or start looking for a new career choice...
Skychicken17 is offline  
Old 03-19-2020, 08:49 AM
  #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Default

Originally Posted by Skychicken17 View Post
I’m wondering the same thing. I’m a cfi at my flight school with 850 hours. 150 hours away from the airlines... I’m wondering if I should stick around there for a while and keep instructing? Or start looking for a new career choice...
Thats not your choice to make. It’s really up to the economy and the airlines.

If the airlines are hiring in a few months when you’re ready then go for it. If not, then you’re stuck.

You’re a CFI. If you’re at a typical school you have a fluctuating paycheck and an overall salary less than $40,000 a year, no health benefits, no 401K and no paid time off. You also probably work your tail off for the money that you do make by working long days and eating quick 10 minute meals during preflight inspections. You might be the exception to this, but that applies to most.

Some people might want to think twice before sacrificing their current lifestyle to pursue the unstable career of an airline pilot. CFI’s don’t have much to lose as far as lifestyle goes so in my opinion if CFI is all you have going for you then it’s still a pretty easy choice
DontLookDown is offline  
Old 03-19-2020, 02:37 PM
  #17  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,244
Default

Originally Posted by Skychicken17 View Post
I’m wondering the same thing. I’m a cfi at my flight school with 850 hours. 150 hours away from the airlines... I’m wondering if I should stick around there for a while and keep instructing? Or start looking for a new career choice...

Short-term: stick it out and see what happens.

Long-term: if it drags out, then you have to consider your financial situation. There will still be excellent long-term career opportunities, retirements numbers don't lie and COVID has a finite time-line.

You could seek greener pastures while you wait, but if it's a drawn-out situation, hiring will be more selective with preference for currency. They may not be accepting rust career changers for a while, your prospects might be better if current.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 03-23-2020, 03:46 PM
  #18  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 10
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Short-term: stick it out and see what happens.

Long-term: if it drags out, then you have to consider your financial situation. There will still be excellent long-term career opportunities, retirements numbers don't lie and COVID has a finite time-line.

You could seek greener pastures while you wait, but if it's a drawn-out situation, hiring will be more selective with preference for currency. They may not be accepting rust career changers for a while, your prospects might be better if current.
Do you think flight training, in general, will come down in price? Guess its all supply and demand right? Fewer people training, price has to come down?
LondonLad is offline  
Old 03-24-2020, 04:11 AM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
sourdough44's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Position: Left
Posts: 636
Default

If someone(prospective pilot) is 1 year or more out, I’d just keep on trucking(flying).

Of course, near term, flight schools may be shutdown​​​​​​.

Did we cease to exist after the ‘Spanish flu’ in 1918? That was pretty bleak. There were some dark times during WWII.

Yes, sprinkle in a little faith. I just don’t think we’ll put up living like this. We are much better equipped that we were 100 years ago.

Just going by averages, this won’t take us under. That’s my story & I’m sticking to it.
sourdough44 is offline  
Old 03-25-2020, 02:29 PM
  #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Default

Originally Posted by LondonLad View Post
Do you think flight training, in general, will come down in price? Guess its all supply and demand right? Fewer people training, price has to come down?
It won’t get cheaper.

Should it get cheaper? Yes. CFI’s are now plentiful since regionals won’t be hiring, so supply is going up. Demand is going down as hobby flyers are less apt to jump into something so expensive after watching their portfolios plummet/potential unemployment on the horizon. Not to mention- gas is extremely cheap now compared to what it has been in the past.

Unfortunately, this will just prevents schools from increasing prices. Once it goes up- they never decrease the price.

Similarly, airline pilots are warning their new peers to not give any concessions on pay. Once the pay is taken away- it doesn’t come back, even when it should.

It isn’t fair, but that’s been the historic reality.
DontLookDown is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
USMCFLYR
Military
85
08-14-2021 03:19 PM
blaquehawk99
Flight Schools and Training
29
06-11-2015 09:51 AM
HuggyU2
Part 91 and Low Time
25
03-27-2013 02:24 PM
HectorD
Flight Schools and Training
21
03-21-2010 07:52 PM
Airsupport
Regional
84
02-06-2010 09:38 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices