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Old 02-21-2021, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by powersmurfuk1 View Post
Are people still using these schools? I'm really curious if they are still busy or if things have slowed down.
Most students already in the program are still in, new students have completely dried up though. 4 new students in Feb, 2 new students in Jan. CFI's are graduating like crazy now and getting put on a part time schedule because there are no new students to assign to them. Long gone are the days of 30-40 students in a class.

A bunch of their more experienced CFI's just signed up for a CFI gig in Bahrain flying the same Diamond aircraft.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:48 PM
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Most students already in the program are still in, new students have completely dried up though. 4 new students in Feb, 2 new students in Jan. CFI's are graduating like crazy now and getting put on a part time schedule because there are no new students to assign to them. Long gone are the days of 30-40 students in a class.

A bunch of their more experienced CFI's just signed up for a CFI gig in Bahrain flying the same Diamond aircraft.
Wow Bahrain must be quite a change from Indianapolis. Who in Bahrain is hiring da40ng instructors?
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Old 03-01-2021, 02:52 PM
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Nice to see this thread still running. Yeah Republican it seems dried up real fast.
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Old 03-08-2021, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by deftone View Post
A bunch of their more experienced CFI's just signed up for a CFI gig in Bahrain flying the same Diamond aircraft.
I don’t think I would consider two a “bunch” but yes two went to Bahrain. One more senior and one more junior.

Several of the more senior people that have moved on are flying charter jets. A couple others to Cape Air and a few flying C208s.

To my knowledge, most that moved on, that were actual LIFT students with a contractural job with RPA, retained the option to return once RPA starts hiring again.
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:48 PM
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I don’t think I would consider two a “bunch” but yes two went to Bahrain. One more senior and one more junior.

Several of the more senior people that have moved on are flying charter jets. A couple others to Cape Air and a few flying C208s.

To my knowledge, most that moved on, that were actual LIFT students with a contractural job with RPA, retained the option to return once RPA starts hiring again.
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Old 03-31-2021, 06:01 PM
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I was an instructor for Lufthansa Air Training in Florida however they had shut down their doors and told their students to look for other work amid the pandemic which is understandable. I believe they still operate a school in Goodyear, Phoenix Arizona. ATP will do what they say, a bit higher priced but once the industry comes back, I am sure they will be flooded with students. I had a couple friends who instructed for ATP, but once they hit their 1500 hours, they lost their jobs to make way for new CFI's as ATP guarantees a CFI position to students who meet eligibility requirements.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:39 AM
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I was an instructor for Lufthansa Air Training in Florida however they had shut down their doors and told their students to look for other work amid the pandemic which is understandable. I believe they still operate a school in Goodyear, Phoenix Arizona. ATP will do what they say, a bit higher priced but once the industry comes back, I am sure they will be flooded with students. I had a couple friends who instructed for ATP, but once they hit their 1500 hours, they lost their jobs to make way for new CFI's as ATP guarantees a CFI position to students who meet eligibility requirements.
If they gave the boot to their CFI's to make way for new ones they must really be just a pilot mill.
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Old 04-06-2021, 05:36 AM
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UND Aerospace Accelerated program in Phoenix. 0-hero with a quoted $58k (based on your time/performance) and no, not a collegiate degree program.

Edit: typically hire CFIs from within their program
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Old 05-24-2021, 10:24 PM
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Is ATP a good school to go to if the end goal is a regional ASAP? I’m looking at envoy more than anything, and my biggest worry is not being able to instruct enough after CFI to get to 1500 by the 2 year mark. I am
Wondering if it’s worth paying more just to teach at ATP?
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Old 05-25-2021, 05:18 AM
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The short answer? NO
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