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Old 06-30-2007, 12:43 PM
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Hey, has anybody done the multi commercial add on at ATP. I know ATP is talked about a lot, I just want some recent opinions. Is it worth it, im just looking for the skinny on it. Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:38 PM
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Yes sir! Go right ahead. I flew out of Trenton. Great bunch of folks there. I even made friends with the DPE there, and I did my CFII and MEI checkride with him as well.
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Is it as advertised. I mean like quick and to the point, does anybody have a hard time passing the checkride? Whats the pace like. Im just looking for the right program for my money. I dont feel like spending 7K for a AMEL add on.
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My flight school actually suggested going to ATP for the multi rating. they are cheap and quick. and then after you have the multi rating you can buy block time to build up a little. you will be hard pressed to find any other wayto build multi time in the beginning other than buying it.
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My flight school actually suggested going to ATP for the multi rating. they are cheap and quick. and then after you have the multi rating you can buy block time to build up a little. you will be hard pressed to find any other wayto build multi time in the beginning other than buying it.
Network! I never paid for a single hour of ME time after getting my ratings and never even used my MEI. It can be done but one needs to get out there...another advantage of FBO flying.
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But every once in a while the MEI comes in damn handy. Like the student who called me up today and wants to take a multi on a long x/c tonight to build time so he can meet the mins to rent himself. Whoo hoo...free multi time RULES
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Is it as advertised. I mean like quick and to the point, does anybody have a hard time passing the checkride? Whats the pace like. Im just looking for the right program for my money. I dont feel like spending 7K for a AMEL add on.
Did it in Atlanta last year. Heck no don't spend $7k for it. There's a place near me that specializes in shearing sheep that offers a 20-hour program billed at $360 an hour, plus materials; outrageous for a ticket that requires only 8 hours. ATP is as-advertised, a wham-bamm multiengine instrument commercial ticket. You must go prepared, for example already know something about everything in the PTS, but if you do it goes pretty smoothly and you will pass. Don't go thinking it is an easy way to get past the FAA standards, it's not. It's more like finishing school. You will fail if you go in cold and they will not give you your money back, be warned.

If you are not that far along but already somewhat into it (how's that for vague!) you can get what they call a MIFR15 as opposed to the standard MIFR10 (about $3000), which means you get an extra two or three hours of instruction, worth it if you are not pretty well prepared going in.

I was ready enough to do the MIFR10 and pass on the first try, but it was challenging. Shooting an approach down to mins with one engine inop and 35 knots crosswinds is no picnic. I used the King "Cleared for Multiengine" kit to help me study before I left for my week at ATP. Hour for hour it's not a very cheap program, yet in terms of efficient flight training you can't beat it and the cost is justified. Study the subject throughly, buy either the 10 hour or the 15 hour program, go with serious intentions and come away with the ticket, it's that simple. I do not know of a cheaper or more efficient way to do it.

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i was thinking of going to ATP to knock out my "ATP" and get recurrent instruments... havent flown in awhile...they suggested the 15 hour program to get recurrent and finish off with my ATP check ride...... sound reasonable?
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I used to instruct there, you will probably find that you won't need all of the time, but if you are unsure, definately go will the higher time program. Some of the pilots I instructed, needed the higher time program but didn't want to pay the extra cash, and I had a couple of failures. Now they had no choice but to pay the DPE again, and get more flight time. I flew with alot of military guys and alot of them had never flown a piston let alone a light twin. The more comfortable you are during the checkride, the easier it goes for both you and the instructor.
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I was scheduled for the course in PDX but had to cancel due to weather.

They send you a packet with Seminole info, kinda like a POH.

You need to study beforehand for these quick courses though....
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