Multi Time Building
 

Im looking to build about 50-75 hours of multi time. Anyone have any ideas on a reasonable priced way of doing this? I live in North Texas.

Get 15 hours of multi, take your MEI checkride. Get paid for the remaining 35-55 hours.

There isnt a huge supply for multi instructors, id be waiting years to get hours.

start calling flight schools, I think you'd be suprised. Paying for a hundred hours of multi is stupid, actually paying for more than it takes to get your mei is too.

So take a weekend somewhere, log enough hours to get your MEI and BAM! You're in demand where there isn't much supply. I'd suggest these guys

http://www.stcharlesflyingsvs.com

I have wondered the same thing, I am waiting to hear back from a CFI gig up here in Wichita - where there is nowhere to even rent a multi, much less instruct in one.

Probably going to have to go back to my old flight school and buy a block to get my hours, unless someone else has a better idea, which would be much appreciated!

SkyMates at Arlington used to have a pretty good time-building deal with their PA-44s. They were "piece-ers," but the block price used to be reasonable. I think it was $135/hr back in my day. I doubt it's that cheap anymore, but you should check it out.

I took my wife on weekend excursions to exotic locations like Brownsville, Wichita, Lafayette, Cape Girardeu, Hot Springs, and Destin, FL! :D

Then, I got the MEI gig (doh!) that I never thought I'd ever be able to get and got another 300 hours.

I'm setting up a time building program in my Apache out of the Spokane area. Send me an email if anyone is interested.

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You stole my eventual idea!!!!! An apache's a great choice for time-building with two engines attached. Good luck with it!

St. Charles flying service would NOT be a good place to be an MEI, or do an MEI for that matter--last time I checked you have to have 500 hours just to act as PIC without a qualified (500TT) instructor...so for a low-time guy, that's not the ideal place to start out as an MEI, since I doubt you could instruct in it until you have 500TT.

Not sure why their insurance mins are so high.

Skymates still has 2 seminoles up and running...they usually have really good availability, $200/hr wet + $10/hr fuel surcharge...works out to $105 per hour per guy doing it shared hood. The Indians only fly the duchess, so usually after 5PM there are no scheduling conflicts. 851ND is a good plane with an intermittent A/P and a crappy heading indicator that precesses like hell. 36737 is a little rough around the edges with no A/P, a bent attitude indicator plane, and constantly wanted to roll (rudder trim???). At least the school has a handheld GPS which they'll let you borrow, but you'd think a school the size of Skymates would put a darned IFR certified GPS in at least one of those planes.

My Apache has a Garmin 430 and an STEC 50 autopilot. The altitude hold even works some of the time....

Nicholasblonde, (Or anyone)
In your last post you said to split the cost with another pilot while doing shared hood. How do you log shared hood time? Is it all pic? What are the restrictions/ if any?

Thanks

You have to have a multi rating. You have to conduct the flight in VMC conditions so that a safety pilot is required per FAR's. It's all PIC.

Thanks de727. But what is VMC conditions?

VMC = visual meterological conditions. The concept of a safety pilot is that when a pilot is flying under the hood, you need another pilot to make sure nobody runs in to you. If you're in the clouds (IMC), you don't need a safety pilot.

How does that make sense though? I assume IMC means Instrument Meteorological Conditions. So why does that change anything? Just because there is nothing the safety pilot can do?

someone surely thought of this...
 

Yeah it's hopeless at that point so the regs cut anyone doing practice IFR without a safety lots of slack (kidding).

No one flies in IMC without being on an instrument flight plan under ATC control and usually also with radar surveillance. Even when you are off the ATC radar you are able to use your instruments to hold course in the clouds, and the risk from not being able to see other aircraft is addressed by all aircraft being either under active vectoring by ATC with radar, or by them having a unique cruise altitude they must abide by. One aircraft overtaking another in the same direction on the same route in IMC never happens because although there may be no radar supervision, ATC would not approve the same flight level for two aircraft at the same time over the same route. As a last case backup there is TCAS (onboard Terrain and Collision Avoidance System) in case someone is both off radar and (way) off their assigned altitude. In any case, a safety pilot is not used, but the regs state that in IMC the pilot in command must try and see potential sources of collision ("see and avoid" policy) anyway.

By the way, the rules for flight by instruments are written in blood by historical disasters such as this one

"Just because there is nothing the safety pilot can do?"

Exactly....

Hey, it's a loophole. Kinda nuts, but I don't make the rules. I think there is a way to use the loophole, within limits, to provide a cost effective learning environment for low time newbie IFR pilots to build multi time.

Ari Ben aviator in Ft. Pierce Florida. Get 50 multi hours in a week and a half for under $6k. I did it back in May, about half will be safety pilot time. It was a great learning experience for me and huge confidence builder as I transitioned into bigger aircraft.

Multi time building
 

Back in the days when CRT flight displays were all in shades of green I had a good flying job that was definitely not a time builder. A buddy and I did a lot of multi time building by renting a decent IFR equipped Aztec and doing the safety pilot thing. We would ussually file a 6 leg X/C IFR flight plan and shoot an interesting approach under the hood at the end of each leg.

It was a lot of fun, worthwhile, relatively cheap and very different from the military stuff I was doing at the time.

FT