Failed a Stage Check because of landing too fast.
11-10-2007, 05:29 PM
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Failed a Stage Check because of landing too fast.
I did a Stage check today so I could get signed off to solo. Everything was good, such as maneuvers, communications, etc., but I landed fast on all of my landings. I fly a Piper Warrior and was coming in around 10kts too fast, even with full flaps, power idle and even putting it into a slip. I also came in fast on my no flaps and 10* flap landings.
What can I do to keep my speed at 63kts for final?
I was also thinking of ordering a book called "Making Perfect Landings"...is this worth it or not at all?
thanks
What can I do to keep my speed at 63kts for final?
I was also thinking of ordering a book called "Making Perfect Landings"...is this worth it or not at all?
thanks
11-10-2007, 06:09 PM
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10 kts too fast isn't that bad. I remember when I first transitioned to the warrior from 172's, I had a hard time slowing down. With 172's I was use to seeing more of the ground, but in the warrior it tends to have a nose up attitude, so you see less of what is below you. I would pitch down too much, which led to excessive airspeed.
Basically what you need to do is bring the power out sooner, and try to keep more of a pitch up attitude. I usually give two turns of up trim when I bring the power back to 1500 RPM. This will increase your sink rate and slow you down. It just takes time to find the power and pitch setting so you can maintain a steady descent right to the threshold.
Basically what you need to do is bring the power out sooner, and try to keep more of a pitch up attitude. I usually give two turns of up trim when I bring the power back to 1500 RPM. This will increase your sink rate and slow you down. It just takes time to find the power and pitch setting so you can maintain a steady descent right to the threshold.
11-10-2007, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikeplanes
I did a Stage check today so I could get signed off to solo. Everything was good, such as maneuvers, communications, etc., but I landed fast on all of my landings. I fly a Piper Warrior and was coming in around 10kts too fast, even with full flaps, power idle and even putting it into a slip. I also came in fast on my no flaps and 10* flap landings.
What can I do to keep my speed at 63kts for final?
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What can I do to keep my speed at 63kts for final?
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Trim, Trim Trim....
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
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Thanks for the help!
I used to fly Cessnas before the Warrior and have also noticed myself pushing the nose of the Warrior downwards. I'll be sure to trim up when I'm abeam the touchdown point.
I used to fly Cessnas before the Warrior and have also noticed myself pushing the nose of the Warrior downwards. I'll be sure to trim up when I'm abeam the touchdown point.
11-12-2007, 04:29 PM
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Also, make sure that you are begining your descent and base legs at the proper points. If you turn in too tight or start your descent too late, it can result in a steeper than optimal approach (and resultant higher airspeed).
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