love2fly

I didn't go to Embry, but I did go to Pan Am for some of my training and it has paid off for me. You may end up paying more, but I have seen first hand, some embry guys/girls will get a 121 job with lower time compared to EDPM above, who had to do banner towing, frieght, ect. Not that it is bad, because you want the experience, but sometimes you get to cut the corners a little bit. I instructed for a few years, flew corporate for about 6 months and finally got hired with a regional. Compare this to 2 embry guys that just got hired at the same regional, they did that capt program and forked out a ton of money, but they are on with a decent 121 carrier with like 500 total hours, sh*t, one guy had only 280 hours. So in a sense they didn't have to spend 3 years of there life building time like myself to get there.

LDmax

Do you have a source on that number? It sounds REALLY high to me. Also, are the costs being thrown about in this thread correct? $40K-$50K per YEAR for a BS/BA degree.

What percentage of the graduating class walks into a pilot job upon graduation without any additional experience or training?

Not trying to pick on you, I guess I fly with the other 75% of those in aviation, I really don't know anything about Riddle.

4everFO

I graduated from ERAU a couple of years ago, and I didn't even come close to spending 55k a year. In fact, at the time, ERAU was the cheapest private accredited college on the East Coast. I am from the NE and all of my high school friends went to places like BC, BU, Holy Cross, ND, and spent alot more on tuition than I did. That being said the flying is more expensive than the local FBO would be. I think that one of the reasons is you fly the course until you get the minimum number of hours required by the 141 program, not fly until you are ready to take the checkride and meet the FAR reqs. Personally, when I was doing my private at ERAU I passed the ride with about 68 hours in my logbook. I had to do a couple of lessons twice (pre solo manuevers), but I finished the course with alot more solo x-country hours than the regs required.

As for why people think that it is the best...most people think that their college was the best. Ask any LSU, UCLA, UGA, U of F, etc. grad what the best school is and they will say their's is/was.

I am not very fond of being compared to the typical ERAU grad out there. All of the vocal ones seem to be the guys that think that they know everything and that they are Gods gift to aviation.

Every year ERAU is in the top 25 US News and World Reports college survey.....for Engineering!!

FO

Rama

Wow lots of Kool Aid going around.

cocomojoe4

Embry Riddle training program really is outstanding, but you will pay for it without a doubt. I am a senior at ERAU Daytona Beach, (not in the flight program). I am majoring in business with a flight ops area of concentration. I think it is really quite stupid to major in aviation when chances are you will not be flying airplanes your entire life, and you need to know how things work outside of the aviation world too! Another reason I don't fly on campus is because I earned all of my ratings through CFIIMEI in highschool at the local FBO I pumped gas for as a highschool kid. In short, I really think the prospective pilot needs to broaden themselves on the education end, and not have tunnel vision like most people fixed on getting an interview with a regional that I see around here. Anyways, ERAU has done alot of good for me, and yes a like the school, but it is not necessarily for flying. just my thoughts on riddlebashing.

Chris

I get that impression just by reading some of the posts on this board. The old aviation department chair at my school left to teach for ERAU and he seemed partly successful in convincing the other students in my class that they would be more marketable later with an ERAU degree.

No thanks. I'd rather join the military.

LAfrequentflyer

I've heard the United States Air Force Academy is also in the top 25 every year in Engineering...So is MIT...

For my money I'll stay with a local school (UL) and join the military...

-LA

Freightpuppy

And, you got paid to work at those jobs. The person that got the regional job sooner still has to pay all the money back for the program. In the end....I would rather do what you did and not have a huge loan to pay back. As for the capt. program grads, they may get to a regional sooner but how many years will they be paying back all that cash?

RiddleEagle18

wait a minute dont attack me I said there are other ways and i never once said riddle was the best way at all. I said it is a really good option and it was the best option for me. Nor did I ever say I was God's gift to aviation.

Embry-Riddle has many connections in the industry and has some prefered hiring especially if you do an internship. X-jets minimums for an intern are 400tt 100multi. ASA has a direct bridge program embry-riddle students can participate in and recieve similar job offers with similar hours. Just some reasons why I chose the school not to mention it is closer to home for me. Never once did I say UND sucks or anything like that in fact i said UND is a good school.

As far as the 25% of airline pilots in the industry graduated from riddle it is on the website

"No longer does our program simply train pilots -- we educate the future leaders in the aviation industry. Already, one in four airline pilots is an Embry-Riddle alumnus, but more than that, our graduates are chief pilots, heads of flight standards, corporate vice presidents, military heroes, and astronauts; the "movers and shakers" of aviation and aerospace."
http://www.erau.edu/db/degrees/b-aerosci.html

Listen Riddle is a great option for me thats all i've ever said and I think it is a great option for others as well. If going here gets me 1 more year of senority at the average airlines top pay(at least 150k at todays pay) then I make money on the deal.

Freightpuppy

I got a non-aviation related degree At one point during school, I got frustrated with my major and went to the Flight dept. to talk to them about switching my major to Aviation Management. I decided not to switch after the director told me "Actually, a degree in anything other than aviation will hurt you when you are trying to get a job". Um, ok.....8 years later I am at UPS.