time & cost to multi comm
 

Here’s the plan. I’ve got 130hr right now, and I need a CPL with a multi addon, as well as my instrument rating. My plan is to do the CPL Single, then right afterwards, do the CPL/multi checkride. I’ve put this together by looking at the requirements of part 61.

I realize that it's unrealistic to budget for the absolute minimum time for training, but I'd like to get a feel for the minimum cost involved.

Also, I'm required to do instrument work (10hr) for the commercial. Can my initial IFR training cover that 10hrs and save me some money?

Would somebody be kind enough to look at these numbers for me, and let me know if I’m missing anything?


C172: $92/hr Twin : $192/hr Instructor: $48/hr


I’ve got 130hrs, with 50hr PIC cross country. Here’s what I figure I’ll have to do:

1.)Training (all dual time)

a.) Instrument rating:

Dual (15)………………………......……$2100
250nm xcountry (5h)………………..$700

b.) CPL:

Instrument (10)……………….………$1400
Maneuvers (5)………...……………..$700
Complex* (10)…………….…...…….$2400

*Complex time will be done in a complex twin

Day x-country (2)……………………..$280
Night x-country (2)……………………$280

CPL Test prep (3)………………...……$276



2.) Solo time

300nm x-country (5)…………………..$460
Night flying (5)…………………...……..$460
Practice maneuvers (5)……………...$460


Total for CPL/multi requirements = 67hr……$9516

Current time = 130hr

Time left over = 250-(130+67) = 53hr

I’ll split the 53 hrs with somebody to save some cash.

At $92/hr……………………………….$2438


Total cost to CPL with multi addon = $11954

If I figure in books and examiners, I’ll say I need $15000

Here's a link to the FAA

§ 61.129 Aeronautical experience.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....0.1.1.2.6.1.5

Thanks in advance for any help I get!

It all looks and sounds good ... but, I have found that when ever I plan anything "flying wise" it never works out the way I want it....for me at least. I always had weeks at a time where I couldnt fly due to weather or planes being down .. and it makes learning commercial maneuvers harder. Instead of 3-4 flights a week, it would 4-5 flights scattered over a month. But, thats because I'm in the northeast. So, I would always need a few extra flights getting the maneuvers down cold. If your asking about this to figure out how much money you will need. I'd always take out more than you need. My best advice would be find a 141 school and get your commercial in 190hrs if your worried about getting it asap.

Not a bad budget. Something to consider, is finding someone else in your situation where you can share some of the time-building as far as safety-pilot time, practicing/criticizing each others flights. Not all is dual-given, so that could save a bunch of cash on both persons parts.

Thanks guys.

the school has quite a few planes and a good booking system, so I'm not anticipating major delays there. The wx is my concern. Hopefully there will be no "acts of God".

The 53hr I have left over will be split with somebody in order to save money.

maybe a bit off subject so please forgive me. I am a PPL looking to get all of my ratings. My question is if I do my instrument trainging a test in a twin is that instrument rating good for a single or do I have to take the practical test in the single too? I am thinking it would only be a few grand more to do the instrument training in the twin but in the end having that much more multi time would be nice in the end.

Thanks

If you do it in a twin you don't have to demonstrate anything in a single. Have the twin time is nice.

Ok, here's my interpretation of the FAA's ruling about what you're asking:

Yes, you can conduct your instrument rating check-ride in a multi-engine airplane, if you have a private MEL certificate; as this would be the certificate appropriate to the instrument rating being sought. Instrument privileges with a rating in a multi-engine airplane, that is.

If you only have a private SEL certificate you will first need to obtain a private MEL add-on rating in order to take the instrument checkride in a multi-engine airplane; that is, unless you can get your examiner to allow you to take the private MEL and instrument rating as a combined check-ride.

Refer:
CFR14 part 61.65 (a)(1)
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PTS: FAA-S-8081-14AM