Boeing 777-300

thanks for the replys... can anyone give a link or does anyone have any idea what classes you take for a BA in aeronautical science at UND. ive looked all over there site but i cant find it.

JMT21

Heres a link to course outlines for the aviation degrees offered
http://www.avit.und.edu/f2_Programs/...uate/index.php

This is the link to the flight ops page. From there, the other links outline the program pretty well.
http://flightops.aero.und.edu/

Hope that helps, if you have any other questions about the program, shoot.

calcapt

I have a son-in-law who enlisted in the USAF several years ago and is currently a C-130 Crew Chief at Hurlbert Field, FL. He wants to fly professionally and I have struggled on the best advice to give him as there are so many options today - many of them bad options! Your thoughtful post has afforded me, and him some options I never knew existed. We all struggle to make our dreams a reality and it is fun and exciting to find good information like this from time to time. Good Luck in your personal goals!!!

Uncle Bose

That was a hell of a pitch, Freefall, but in my opinion it's not a tough sale. Why would ANYONE pick ERAU over the service academies??? (I mean besides me)
Aside from your high school GPA, your scenario sounds a lot like my uncle's. Maybe you know him...Col. Kevin Davis of the Department of Management...anyway, the air force paid for not only his MBA, but also his PhD, both from Harvard. He told me year after year that "it's not too late" to get in. I had a low high school GPA (3.0 with a few Ds sprinkled in), and enlisted in the army after graduation. After that I went to college, still hearing "it's not too late" every time the subject came up. Well, now it's too late. I'm 27, have a (useless) degree, and sixty thousand dollars of debt. Would've been twice that if not for my years at a community college. Oh, well...I'm looking into a finance/econ degree now. Making 20-25K for the next few years, with little job security and no lateral mobility, is unacceptable.

FREEFALL_Pilot

CALCAP,

By all means, please encourage him to get those letters of recommendation from his supervisors together and get that application package in ASAP! The max age for entrance to the Prep School is 22, and the Academy, 23. My wife is sitting here with me, and she says from experience that enlisted are truly afforded a VERY fair shake at admission, despite their past performance in high school. I wish you all luck...

//Break//Break//

Uncle Bob,

Yes I do in fact know Col. Davis. I was a business major (as well as my wife), and in fact we were just talking about him the other day. We were both saying how incredibly smart he was, and how we were floored at the fact that he could walk into any room with business majors and call you by your first name.....even if he had never met you. It was incredible. Truly a smart and gifted man.

FREEFALL_Pilot

rickair7777

All of the service academies set aside a large number of slots annually for enlisted members, including reserve/guard enlisted. The reserve/guard slots are NEVER all utilized, so if you meet the basic requirements, you should be in..

Boeing 777-300

i guess theres no way around general ed. classes huh? i kinda burned myself out freshman and sophmore year with honors and AP classes so i guess thats whats making me dread taking english and other general classes in college. i do enjoy math and science though (thus aviation) as far as grades go...they arent a problem i have a 4.0+ GPA at a private high school. I guess im going to apply to ERAU, UND, and USAF and go tour them... thanks for all of your replys!

Pilotpip

Tour first, and then apply. Don't limit yourself to Riddle and UND just because they say they're the best, or because they have the biggest ad in a magazine. A lot of state schools have strong aviation programs and there are a number of "private" schools that have the same and are still less than ER costs.

JMT21

5's, 4's, and usually 3's on the AP tests should transfer as credits at UND. However, before classes start at UND you can take a test in various subjects and if you do well enough you can skip some classes. My brother had passed close to a dozen AP tests but USAFA dosen't accept them. They do make take a course placement test during basic and based on that he was able to skip 2 or 3 lower level math and science classes. The AP classes prepare you very well even if you don't get credit for them so don't consider them a complete waste.

Last years USAFA grads couldn't fill all their allotted flights slots to them. If you can make it into the acadamy and don't mind spending 15 years in the service, it's the way to go.

FuelJetA

I would SERIOUSLY consider a degree in engineering. You can stick with aviation, but broaden it. Like Aviation Business or Aeronautical Engineering. A degree in Aviation Science is almost as good as a degree in Philosophy, b/c with a degree in Philosophy, at least you can teach!