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Originally Posted by Slice
(Post 358518)
At 20 you should be enjoying your prime college years(ideally), not worrying about flight school and seniority. I'd like to see the stats on how many plunk down the cash to save time(which it really doesn't if you find the right small school) and don't make it to a regional or a major. I doubt anyone but a 40 or 50 something career changer aspires to fly an RJ for an entire career.
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Originally Posted by LeoSV
(Post 358667)
I'm pretty sure that taking flying lessons at 20 is an awesome privilege. Do you not think so? What do you mean "worried" about flying lessons?
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One of the factors many fail to consider in flight training is paying for it. Yes ATP and others like it are expensive, and do cost more than a local fbo route. However, they offer financing options that fbo's dont. Thats not even mentioning the money you make at the end of your career by finishing faster.
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Originally Posted by skigambia
(Post 358678)
One of the factors many fail to consider in flight training is paying for it. Yes ATP and others like it are expensive, and do cost more than a local fbo route. However, they offer financing options that fbo's dont. Thats not even mentioning the money you make at the end of your career by finishing faster.
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Originally Posted by Slice
(Post 358530)
I agree with most of what you say. I just don't see the need to get into $70K worth of debt to do it when it can be had for half that and in a similar time frame.
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
(Post 358652)
I wouldn't say aspires to, however, it is a VERY viable option. Those of us who are career changers still dream of making it to the big dance. I'm sure there is "a career changer" out there saying that once they exceed the minimums for the major pax & cargo that they'll throw their hat in the ring. What do they have to lose? Nothing. At that stage of the game being able to compete is an accomplish in and of itself.
atp Throwing your hat in the ring and saying "look at me, I can hold my own with the big boys" is one thing. Realistic earning potential and quality of life sacrifices are another. Being at the bottom of the seniority list ANYWHERE is not fun. And at the majors, where movement tends to be slower, you may be there a looooong time. What do you have to lose? Well you get another trip through the initial training cycle. Another (potentially lengthy) stay on reserve. Another year of probation. Another year of first year pay. The nail-biting experience of being at the bottom of a very large seniority list during an economic downturn. Sorry if I'm not painting the rosiest picture. I'm just hear living the dream one day at a time:D |
why not try Air National Guard or Reserves? Assuming you wouldn't mind serving your country; the extra bennies are a lot of flight time, and they pay you to do it; none of this "60k in the hole" bit.
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 358793)
Oh young padwan learner...;)
Throwing your hat in the ring and saying "look at me, I can hold my own with the big boys" is one thing. Realistic earning potential and quality of life sacrifices are another. Being at the bottom of the seniority list ANYWHERE is not fun. And at the majors, where movement tends to be slower, you may be there a looooong time. What do you have to lose? Well you get another trip through the initial training cycle. Another (potentially lengthy) stay on reserve. Another year of probation. Another year of first year pay. The nail-biting experience of being at the bottom of a very large seniority list during an economic downturn. Sorry if I'm not painting the rosiest picture. I'm just hear living the dream one day at a time:D Padwan!!! Ok...you got me there.:p But I tell you that timing is everything. As you approach the point of diminishing return, and movement is stagnant, it may not be a good idea to jump to the majors. I'll concede that much. However say, for example, three years from now I have 2000-3500 TT, 1500 ME; 1000 TBP/PIC or there abouts; you doggone right I'm going to take a shot. True, I'll have to endure the initial training cycle all over again but I wanna be holding a line position as quickly as possible. I'm aware that there are alot of variables right now that I don't know about....but it's good to have a plan and be flexible in that plan. Nothing ventured....nothing gained!!! atp |
heyy guys i am in the navy and i am coming out soon....and i want to go to a flight school in florida! Do anyone know what is the best flight school in florida and how do you become a airline pilot flying for the majors? Can you skip regional airline and go straight to a major?
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
(Post 359216)
Padwan!!!
Ok...you got me there.:p But I tell you that timing is everything. As you approach the point of diminishing return, and movement is stagnant, it may not be a good idea to jump to the majors. I'll concede that much. However say, for example, three years from now I have 2000-3500 TT, 1500 ME; 1000 TBP/PIC or there abouts; you doggone right I'm going to take a shot. True, I'll have to endure the initial training cycle all over again but I wanna be holding a line position as quickly as possible. I'm aware that there are alot of variables right now that I don't know about....but it's good to have a plan and be flexible in that plan. Nothing ventured....nothing gained!!! atp I also would reevaluate your notions that in 3 years with 3500TT/1000TPIC you would be competitive at the majors. Even before hiring slowed and all these airlines started going belly up and putting hundreds of WAY more qualified guys out on the street, 1000TPIC was nothing magical and many guys continued to toil away at the regionals while doing everything they could to move on. Everyone's situation is unique and change is the only constant in this business. I'm sure your mileage will vary. |
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