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the King 05-05-2008 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 379184)
I suggest you have them take it to a full stall, just be ready. It has a nasty tendancy to nose the right really hard. It prob hasnt happened yet but your students will freak if they go with the FAA and they say recover after a full stall. Also it gets REAL REAL sporty when you start doing secondary stalls in the CFI since they go into a second stall at full power.


I've had Commercial pilots do secondary stalls to see what it is and what not to do, but I've never found them troubling. Once or twice, we got the hard right in a power on stall, but only occasionally.

patton33 05-05-2008 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 379184)
I suggest you have them take it to a full stall, just be ready. It has a nasty tendancy to nose the right really hard. It prob hasnt happened yet but your students will freak if they go with the FAA and they say recover after a full stall. Also it gets REAL REAL sporty when you start doing secondary stalls in the CFI since they go into a second stall at full power.


Commercial PTS is to recover at first indication of stall

the King 05-06-2008 05:31 PM

Yeah, but I do try to have students recover from a full stall the first time they do it. Then I have them recover at first indication afterwards. It's nice to know what the airplane will do.

patton33 05-06-2008 05:36 PM

Well naturally

Things like that are one of the few things I enjoy about VFR maneuvers in flight training devices, Vmc demo gone wrong :). They might as well see what the outcome can be. After we do that i set them up for a low altitude Vmc roll, usually gets them the first time then they get smart about it.

Sbaker1595 05-06-2008 06:51 PM

there are too many factors to take into account to be able to say "this is how a power on stall should be done" all depends on the instructor and the airplane....i dont mind doing full power on stalls in my bellanca....it will stall and start to buffet but will never drop the nose, even has effective aileron input the whole way through the stall....wouldnt do that in a cutlass tho

the King 05-06-2008 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by patton33 (Post 380444)
Well naturally

Things like that are one of the few things I enjoy about VFR maneuvers in flight training devices, Vmc demo gone wrong :). They might as well see what the outcome can be. After we do that i set them up for a low altitude Vmc roll, usually gets them the first time then they get smart about it.


My personal favorite is an engine kill at 80 kts in the F142 (PA-44 settings). Can't make it climb at all, even if you know it's coming.


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