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Old 10-22-2008, 09:22 PM   #31  
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The scary part is not the 200TT (well that's scary)... but even more scary is the 25-50 Multi IMHO

Those will low time... haven't really had the chance to make critical decisions during adverse circumstances... those are what really shapes a pilot.

---disclaimer--- I do not fly an RJ-----
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Old 10-23-2008, 06:34 PM   #32  
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Wow, LivinginMem your response makes no sense and argues against positions that I never even made.
I think Slice was refering to my 2nd of my most recent posts (referring to what USMC said), so I'll cover the first, carrying you through and holding your hand as a good Capt would.

I said "I can see why you think that an RJ F/O should do nothing more than watch the autopilot and work the radios - your analysis skills are not so much." This was a reference to:

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how hard is it to sit there and monitor the instruments and work the radios for the Capt.? Lets not b.s here, the autopilot does the work, we are merely systems managers and you don't need a lot of time to do that.
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Further, I originally stated that I learned the RJ around 350, not that I currently had 350.
Notice that I said that you think an RJ F/O should do nothing more than watch the autopilot and work the radios because that is what you said. I said your analysis skills are not so much because no one accused you of having 350 hours - although, there were a few references to the generic 350-hour pilot.

I then went on to say: "The fact that you would not even consider the role of decision-maker in the cockpit (which is certainly where experience would come into play) and only reference working the radios and watching the autopilot tells me that you certainly have not been exposed to an ATP type ride or LOE in this type of environment - or that is what your posts convey."

Again, that refers to your comment on what the F/O does and this one...
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Further, I think all of you making the position that a person who needs more than a few hundred hours to fly an RJ are merely attempting to make yourself feel better about the fact that we just sit there and let the autopilot do all the work.
In a true 121 environment, the F/O does a little more than working radios and watching instruments when the Capt goes to the bathroom. They actually should be productive (as in not just there for the ride or even SA depleting) during all phases of flight regardless of the condition of the aircraft. Again, I have not flown for a regional, but I would suspect that they know the memory items; they are required to fly single-engine and other EP approaches and landings; that they are expected to have a working knowledge of the CFM, FOM, FAR's, and any other applicable directives; etc. Maybe all you do is sit there and watch the instruments because that is all they trust you with (if you do fly RJ's), but don't project those limitations on the others on this board.
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The scary part is not the 200TT (well that's scary)... but even more scary is the 25-50 Multi IMHO

Those will low time... haven't really had the chance to make critical decisions during adverse circumstances... those are what really shapes a pilot.

---disclaimer--- I do not fly an RJ-----
Unfortunately, the keeper of the standard is airline management - and they are the ones leading the race to the bottom. To them, there is no such thing as too inexperienced a pilot, as long as the price is right.
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