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FutureFO 10-09-2008 01:59 PM

B737 Type Rating
 
Just curious to see how hard is it get a type rating on a 737 without any jet time or turboprop. I meet ATP minimums and I was thinking instead of getting an ATP on a Baron, why not get a type rating as that will get you the ATP certificate as well. If i were to do this without any 121 or heavy time, will that put me behind the class?

CaptainCarl 10-09-2008 02:08 PM

If you know you are a good pilot, and other people have told you so, you should be able to do a 73 type without too much difficulty. The biggest problem is the difference in speed. Things happen a helluva lot faster in a 73 than in a Baron. If you got money to do it, I would say do it. Hell, it can't hurt and you might even learn something. :D

FutureFO 10-09-2008 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 476382)
If you know you are a good pilot, and other people have told you so, you should be able to do a 73 type without too much difficulty. The biggest problem is the difference in speed. Things happen a helluva lot faster in a 73 than in a Baron. If you got money to do it, I would say do it. Hell, it can't hurt and you might even learn something. :D

Thanks for the info. If I were to do my ATP checkride in a baron it would cost me between 3-4k(including examiner's fees). I have seen online that you get get a 737-300 for $7000. I am just afraid that I will be way behind everyone since most attendees are former CRJ captains or pilots with lots of jet experience. I have instructed for over 2 years and I think i am a pretty good pilot. But 737 is scary with that much speed.

There is line 10-09-2008 02:22 PM

I got my 73 type about a year ago for SWA. In my class there was a guy in the same situation as yours. He said that doing an ATP in a twin piston costs just a little more than the 73 type (4995$).
He had no major problems passing, the oral was straight forward and the check ride with no surprises.
So I would say that it might take you working a bit harder than the rest of your class but if you are motivated you can do it.

FutureFO 10-09-2008 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by There is line (Post 476387)
I got my 73 type about a year ago for SWA. In my class there was a guy in the same situation as yours. He said that doing an ATP in a twin piston costs just a little more than the 73 type (4995$).
He had no major problems passing, the oral was straight forward and the check ride with no surprises.
So I would say that it might take you working a bit harder than the rest of your class but if you are motivated you can do it.

Thanks for the info. The flight school is being very cooperative with me. They have offered me to sit in on a previous class at no additional charge so that I know what to expect during my class. I was told that i would get a SOE restriction on my certificate. Will that go away after fly any jets or just 737?

MatthewAMEL 10-09-2008 02:39 PM

I don't understand the SOE thing. That is usually only for aircraft that can be operated single-pilot, right?

SaltyDog 10-09-2008 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by FutureFO (Post 476384)
Thanks for the info. If I were to do my ATP checkride in a baron it would cost me between 3-4k(including examiner's fees). I have seen online that you get get a 737-300 for $7000. I am just afraid that I will be way behind everyone since most attendees are former CRJ captains or pilots with lots of jet experience. I have instructed for over 2 years and I think i am a pretty good pilot. But 737 is scary with that much speed.

Wouldn't worry about the speed in the sim. Why? Sim training is geared to circus landings (approaches) of various types to satisfy the type ride. I teach (line pilot who instructs in training center) and generally don't need to operate above 200 KIAS, often around 180 in the patterns. Stall series in my aircraft is flown at 250KIAS, doesn't matter since you are not really concerned about navigation during the manuever, likely get vectors or whatever to next point anyway.

SB2K 10-09-2008 02:57 PM

Type Rating
 
There's substantially more to a type rating than just flying the sim. Systems, limitations, etc. on a fairly complex jet... Can you drink from a fire hose?

You might want to wait until someone else is paying for a type and just get your ATP for now.

CaptainCarl 10-09-2008 03:21 PM

There is a limitation if you get the type rating without actually going out and flying the jet. And no, it doesn't go away when you fly any jet. It will go away once you've completed your... Well, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure. I think it's probably your initial operating experience. Probably something like 25 hours in the real deal with an instructor who is typed on the 73. However, not many of those guys running around doing freelance work on all those 73's just sitting and waiting to be rented for 25 hours ;) Anyways, the limitation will look something like this: "This certificate is subject to pilot-in-command limitation for B-737." Unfortunately, don't expect anyone to hire you just because you are typed in the 73. It helps, but not much. Everyone wants "500 hours on type."

DWN3GRN 10-09-2008 03:41 PM

CaptainCarl is right. I was going to say the 73 type is great to have. But if you want to be competative, you must be current and have time in type. Hope this helps.


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