Military Currency counting for BFR
10-24-2008, 06:44 AM
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Military Currency counting for BFR
So I think I know the question but I figured I would ask our fine group of CFI's. I havent had a civilian BFR in about 6 years now, but I have had my annual Instrument Check and Mission Check every year with the Air Force. I am assuming that this counts as to keeping my commercial/instrument rating current for both my single and multi-engine certficate?
10-24-2008, 08:01 AM
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What's the sign-off look like from the military??? Honestly I have never ran into this. I would suspect it should, but there needs to be some sort of sign off from a check-ride, or BFR to qualify for it. When you get these, see if they can sign it off as both the military qual, and civilian BFR just to be safe. I don't think I answered anything though.
10-24-2008, 08:12 AM
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I'm not 100% certain on this.
61.56(d) allows a "pilot proficiency check for a certificate, rating, or operating privilege" to count as a BFR.
The question is what is exactly is an operating privilege? I think you're good, but you might want to call the FSDO and ask them. You don't want to go to an airline interview and not have a good answer if that comes up. "Well, I always assumed..."
61.56(d) allows a "pilot proficiency check for a certificate, rating, or operating privilege" to count as a BFR.
The question is what is exactly is an operating privilege? I think you're good, but you might want to call the FSDO and ask them. You don't want to go to an airline interview and not have a good answer if that comes up. "Well, I always assumed..."
10-24-2008, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'm not 100% certain on this.
61.56(d) allows a "pilot proficiency check for a certificate, rating, or operating privilege" to count as a BFR.
The question is what is exactly is an operating privilege? I think you're good, but you might want to call the FSDO and ask them. You don't want to go to an airline interview and not have a good answer if that comes up. "Well, I always assumed..."
61.56(d) allows a "pilot proficiency check for a certificate, rating, or operating privilege" to count as a BFR.
The question is what is exactly is an operating privilege? I think you're good, but you might want to call the FSDO and ask them. You don't want to go to an airline interview and not have a good answer if that comes up. "Well, I always assumed..."
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10-25-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I would have **assumed** that our (USN/USMC) annual NATOPS Evaluation (our emergencies simulator) and our annual NATOPS Instrument Evaluation (standard instrument checkride) would have sufficed for the BFR; but I am not smart on the requirements for a BFR in the first place so I'll be interested in hearing what the FSDO has to say about it.
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It would make sense, yes. Of course legal is not always safe...
I knew of these two viper guys who bought a 172 (or 152?) for fun...they promptly cracked it up on landing. Insurance bought them another one, which they also wrecked in short order. After that they hung it up.
10-25-2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It would make sense, yes. Of course legal is not always safe...
I knew of these two viper guys who bought a 172 (or 152?) for fun...they promptly cracked it up on landing. Insurance bought them another one, which they also wrecked in short order. After that they hung it up.
I knew of these two viper guys who bought a 172 (or 152?) for fun...they promptly cracked it up on landing. Insurance bought them another one, which they also wrecked in short order. After that they hung it up.
10-25-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It would make sense, yes. Of course legal is not always safe...
I knew of these two viper guys who bought a 172 (or 152?) for fun...they promptly cracked it up on landing. Insurance bought them another one, which they also wrecked in short order. After that they hung it up.
I knew of these two viper guys who bought a 172 (or 152?) for fun...they promptly cracked it up on landing. Insurance bought them another one, which they also wrecked in short order. After that they hung it up.
But if an AF pilot doesn't know how to flare - who does???
Now if the story involved Navy pilots - well what do you expect?
I haven't flown civilian in nearly 18 years except for my ATP and I'll not be flying even the mighty C-152 without a CFI for the first time or two!
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