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Old 11-20-2008, 08:10 PM
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Hello everyone:

Just got done with ME commercial and instrument rating with 261 hrs. Great Lakes was a good option to get 121 time and quick upgrades, but unfortunately that was great 6 months ago when they were hiring with 300 hrs and about 20 multi time(if you think there are still some airlines that i could have a good chance with please let me know)

I have been wondering if you guys can help me guide for finding CFI jobs where i can get a lot of ME time.
My total time is 261
multi engine 16
X country 48

I will be very glad to get your responses as soon as possible.

Thank you

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Old 11-20-2008, 09:05 PM
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Hope you're wearing nomex...

Must be rough having to (gasp) INSTRUCT!
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:20 AM
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I'd be happy right now with a steady CFI job..........

48 hours X-C? Dude you have got to be kidding me.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:36 AM
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Airline pirate,
The reason your responses will be varied in this thread but more heavily leaning towards criticism and snide remarks are many.

From a long time poster and moderators perspective most of us have seen these exact same threads pop up maybe once or so a month. This certainly is not the first "I have 200 hours and need to work for an airline ASAP" thread this month. In todays market there are a plethora of pilots who are out on the streets during the holidays without flying jobs. These pilots range from 600 hours and a few hours in an ERJ to people with multiple type ratings and thousands of hours of international heavy jet PIC. Alot of these people can not even get a job flying traffic in a cessna 152 because the market is stagnant.

When we (grouped into this category are people who typically got their ratings over the course of a year or more and then instructed for a thousand hours plus and then started at the bottom in freight or a regional) see threads where kids get into aviation with the "get me there as quick as possible and I dont care how" attitude it hits a hot button.

Not saying you are doing anything wrong with your career or aspirations but dont be surprised that although 90% of this thread will be negative it will be the truth and take it with a grain of salt. There are no dream jobs or chances anymore for low time pilots you will HAVE to instruct or find some other means to build time and work your way through the trenches.

Dont be so fixated on multi engine time, get total time as that is what matters and the multi engine will fall into place. I guarantee if you end up with 2000TT at an interview and 16 multi you will be just as competetive as another applicant with 600 hours and 100 multi engine especially if your total time was doing something valuable such as CFI time.
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt View Post
Dont be so fixated on multi engine time, get total time as that is what matters and the multi engine will fall into place. I guarantee if you end up with 2000TT at an interview and 16 multi you will be just as competetive as another applicant with 600 hours and 100 multi engine especially if your total time was doing something valuable such as CFI time.
I would have to disagree with this part (the rest is spot-on)...

I know that in the last several years, some regionals hired with 50 hours ME or even just a AMEL. But when hiring is tight, regionals commonly look for 1000-3000 total time, with 300-500 hours ME (competetive might be even higher). If they are looking for 2000TT, 16 or 50 ME probably won't cut it. The reason is that 1200 hour pilots can get 135 jobs, so many 2000 hour pilots will have 135 experience with plenty of twin time.

During the post 9/11 slowdown I finally quit my ASEL CFI gig to go get an MEI job...several months later I hit 400 ME, and the phone started ringing. All the folks in my interview groups also had hundreds of ME hours. At thaat time, the 2000 hour ASEL CFI's were going nowhere fast.

Of course I don't know for sure what the future will hold, but I would consider past history pretty carefully.

At this point I would probably take the first CFI job available...but keep an eye out for ME opportunuties, especially CFI jobs where you can move up into a twin later on down the road.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:23 AM
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Or go 135 freight to build multi. I spent a couple years going nowhere with a lack of multi. Ended up around 2000 total and 50 multi. I took a 135 twin job and six months later I was getting mutiple interview ops.
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The Naples Air Center, great place to build time, you'll get all the single engine time you want, unfortuntely not much multi to go around. You can fly 1000 hrs./year, easily.......Good people too.
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I don't have an JAA flight instructor license, that is all what Naples is hiring.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for all your help guys. since I will have to go through the CFI route could you guys throw some light on how long it should take me from studying for the written exam till i start instructing? I heard CFI has the highest failure rate... is that true?

Whats a good way to ace this course and what are some good ME CFI opportunities (ATP perhaps???)

Appreciate all your help (Rick AIR and usmc-sgt)

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Old 11-25-2008, 09:27 AM
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I don't know the percentage, but I didn't have any problems with it. Just know the airplane inside and out. The FOI won't take too long to study for, but the FIA might take some time. Training will take about 10 hour ish, depends how comfortable you are sitting in the right seat. It took me two months to get my CFI. So yeah good luck.
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