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Old 09-09-2006, 04:09 AM
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An aero science degree is useless. It barely fills a line on an application. I realized that when I had flown 3 years as a CFI and had 1500+hours. Of course, I was better off than those pilots around me who had no degree, but when the market went flat and all airlines started to furlough instead of hire, I had absolutely no edu-mication to make a second income except to pump gas at the local FBO. That was it. I drove a tug from midnight to 8:00AM. WalMart didn't exist back then or I would have had a backup plan. I STRONGLY stress the importance of getting a degree outside of aviation. Unfortunately, sooooo many pilots I know are just like I was-- starry-eyed about winged thingies and don't want to pollute their resume with lines like BS Accounting or BS Management. Big mistake.
Only a few will listen to you. Unfortunately, they buy the BS Aero Science degree....What do you do now?

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“When the interviewer asks where you did your flight training and you say Embry-Riddle, it’s done,” he says. “Embry-Riddle is the standard in the industry. People still call it the Harvard of the Sky.”




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“When the interviewer asks where you did your flight training and you say Embry-Riddle, it’s done,” he says. “Embry-Riddle is the standard in the industry. People still call it the Harvard of the Sky.”

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Great quote. Unfortunately for Riddle, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
That quote is from a guy who went to ERAU. Of course he's going to say something like that. Further, the story is posted on ERAU's website, and authored by a guy who doesn't seem to have any sort of credentials to write the story. The only fact we know about Ross is that he introduced Independence Air as "a small airline that served regularly scheduled routes for Delta," a statement that immediately leaves a black mark on his credibility.
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“When the interviewer asks where you did your flight training and you say Embry-Riddle, it’s done,” he says. “Embry-Riddle is the standard in the industry. People still call it the Harvard of the Sky.”




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Good God in Heaven! I hadn't seen that before. If any standard is set in that article, it's the shameless audacity of ERAU propaganda. A neighbor of mine in Daytona was a 32-yr-old starting freshman at ERAU who licked up every word of it. He's now 34, with over two years to go, already massively in debt, and refuses to believe he may be on the wrong path. Any information he's heard contrary to what's on the ERAU website is "stupid" and the source "doesn't know what he's talking about." Poor guy...34 is a little old to be so gullible.
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Only a few will listen to you. Unfortunately, they buy the BS Aero Science degree....What do you do now?

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BS aero sci degree? How it's just as useless as any other degree. A business degree doesn't get you far in life if you're 35-40 and your medical gets yanked. Would companies rather hire a fresh college grad with the same degree and an internship or a 35-40 year old with the same degree? Exactly, no matter what your degree is in, once you start doing something else, such as flying, for some amount of time, your degree is just as useless. No matter what it's in.
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Its worthless because everything you need to know is found in FAA published or approved manuals. You don't need to sit in a class room for 4 years to pass those written tests or to pass an interview...


I suspect most of the people in those classes are the scoins of old money and the odd few that are about to burden their parents with 100K+ in debt.

Aero Science degree does have one benefit - you and your training officer in the local PD will have something to talk about while on patrol.


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Only a few will listen to you. Unfortunately, they buy the BS Aero Science degree....What do you do now?

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In 1984, when I said "F++k it, I have had enough of this s++t" I had:

ATP- MEL
Commercial- SEL, SES, MES, Glider
CFI-A,-I,-MEL,-Glider
4,500 hours Total

I went back to school and got an engineering degree at a state university that cost me $700 a quarter. I almost went insane making enough money to pay off Riddle loans, second degree tuition, rent and food.....BUT my first job out paid $40k a year. It was definitely worth the 4 extra years and the best investment I ever made. It would take you at least 10 years to reach the same salary with an Air Science degree.

I haven't flown in 5 years, my licenses are expired due to lack of BFR and I do not have a current medical. I really don't care if I ever see another cockpit.

F++k Riddle.
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Its worthless because everything you need to know is found in FAA published or approved manuals. You don't need to sit in a class room for 4 years to pass those written tests or to pass an interview...


I suspect most of the people in those classes are the scoins of old money and the odd few that are about to burden their parents with 100K+ in debt.


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Also consider that an Aero Sci degree, especially at this thread's subject institution, is so insanely expensive that not only is it useless, but it's even HARMFUL. For a degree whose only purpose is to fill a checkbox on an application, it's hard to choose more poorly than Aero Sci.
By the way, those about to burden themselves and their parents with years of crushing debt are closer to the majority than you'd think...

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I haven't flown in 5 years, my licenses are expired due to lack of BFR
Apparently, Riddle never bothered to teach you that pilot certificates don't expire.
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Apparently, Riddle never bothered to teach you that pilot certificates don't expire.
I just don't care what I have forgotten about those rules. No BFR in 7 years and I don't know where the licenses are. By my rules, they're expired. Poof.

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