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Old 04-09-2006, 03:45 PM
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First of all my questions may seem stupid plz forgive me.
Whats the best 5 Aviation school in US?
Whats the different between Embry Riddle and Phoenix East?
What school will i be able to get in with a GPA 3.0 at Jr College?
Do Airline look for the school u gratz or the time and the experience?

Thanks for all the help
 
Old 04-09-2006, 04:48 PM
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The 5 best aviation schools is subjective. What's the best university in the country? Same question.

ER and Phoenix East are different schools, with different programs, and different resourses.

Depends on how you do on entrance exams, SAT, ACT ect.

Airlines really don't care where you go to school, or what your degree is in for the most part. Some have hiring agreements that will get you in the door with lower times but having the personality of a rock, or being a jerk won't get you anywhere.

Time and experience are what matters. Your certificates don't say where you went.

Also, reading the other threads in this fourm you'll find answers to most of your questions.
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Old 04-09-2006, 09:15 PM
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Thanks alot for ur help.
Now i understand how this works^^ thanks again
 
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Yeah what pip said. UND, Riddle, and Purdue are names that commonly get kicked around when talking about flight schools (I'm assuming your not talking acadamies). There are lots of other good flight schools out there that often get over looked becasue of their smaller size. You should be able to transfer to most schools (within reason) with a 3.0 I would think. The issue will be with what transfers where. Hope this helps and good luck!
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:41 AM
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My advice would be to NOT get a degree in aviation. This is one of the best pieces of advice I have been given in my entire life (and trust me, I always ask for advice). It seems that with the volatile airline industry, there is a decent chance that you may find yourself unemployeed at a point in your career. Perhaps the industry may be so bad you might just need to leave. Then what do you do?

I highly recommend getting a degree in engineering. You will learn so much that is pertinent to aviation, but you will also have a back-up. Example. Once you have done 3-d center of mass with varying density in college, 1-D center of gravity for weight and balance is EASY. When I was a new flight instructor, I made a few computer programs to calculate weight & balance, preformance, time enroute, fuel burn, linear interpolation between preformance data points, and a few others. Saves me a bunch of time when I want to load an aircraft, or especially when I am planning a cross country flight. Plus I have learned so much from the internships I have gotten. I truly understand just how STRONG any aircraft is. It is downright amazing! Truly understanding things like that are incredibly helpful.

Even if engineering is not for you, I recommend getting a business degree or something other than aviation. You should shoot for your aviation goal, but it is very important to have a back-up.
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Old 04-10-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Calcal
Whats the best 5 Aviation school in US?
US Navy
USAF
ANG
USCG
USMC

Not in any particular order.
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Originally Posted by ryane946
My advice would be to NOT get a degree in aviation. This is one of the best pieces of advice I have been given in my entire life (and trust me, I always ask for advice). It seems that with the volatile airline industry, there is a decent chance that you may find yourself unemployeed at a point in your career. Perhaps the industry may be so bad you might just need to leave. Then what do you do?

I highly recommend getting a degree in engineering. You will learn so much that is pertinent to aviation, but you will also have a back-up. Example. Once you have done 3-d center of mass with varying density in college, 1-D center of gravity for weight and balance is EASY. When I was a new flight instructor, I made a few computer programs to calculate weight & balance, preformance, time enroute, fuel burn, linear interpolation between preformance data points, and a few others. Saves me a bunch of time when I want to load an aircraft, or especially when I am planning a cross country flight. Plus I have learned so much from the internships I have gotten. I truly understand just how STRONG any aircraft is. It is downright amazing! Truly understanding things like that are incredibly helpful.

Even if engineering is not for you, I recommend getting a business degree or something other than aviation. You should shoot for your aviation goal, but it is very important to have a back-up.
Are you an Engineer? I am getting a BSME/AE. I will be done by the end of the year. I need some help picking a good flight school that is not going to tear my wallet. I want good trainning and any way to save money...



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Originally Posted by AgonzAPC
Are you an Engineer? I am getting a BSME/AE. I will be done by the end of the year. I need some help picking a good flight school that is not going to tear my wallet. I want good trainning and any way to save money...
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Yes, I graduated with my bachelors in Aerospace Engineering. It's good to hear that you have an engineering degree. It obviously teaches you a lot, and it is a great backup to have incase you are furloughed from an airline job.


There are two types of flight schools. There are local FBO's, and then there are flight academies. I highly recommend an FBO over a big flight academy. A local FBO would be any school at your local airport where you can get any licenses and ratings from private to ATP. A flight academy are the huge schools (Flight Safety, Delta Connection, PanAm, ATP, Regional Airline Academy) that COST A LOT, but definately do good training, and train LOTS of pilots.

My recommendation would be to do your licenses and ratings at an FBO. It will save you at least $20,000 for the same training. At academies, you will pay $55 an hour for instruction. At an FBO you will pay about $35 an hour for instruction. The flip side, when you want to instruct to timebuild, academies will only pay you $14 an hour. The FBO will pay you $25-35 an hour. BIG DIFFERENCE! At academies, you will pay like $105 for an old cessna, while at an FBO you will pay $80-90 for an old cessna. At academies you will pay over $200 an hour for a multi, while those cost about $150 at an FBO. As crazy as these prices are, the place where these academies make their money is ground school. If you take the hours of ground school divided by the total cost, it works out to like $20 an hour for a class of 10-20 people. That's too much! American Flyers charges $80 an hour for classroom instruction, and they are proud of it. That is more than classes cost at Stanford or Yale!!!

That is why I recommend an FBO over an airline academy. It is much cheaper, you will make more money, and the training can be accomplished in the SAME amount of time.

Go visit a local airport and go into and talk to ALL the flight schools in your local area. If you need some more advice from there, feel free to post a thread, or PM me, and I will be happy to help.
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