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FLightle 04-21-2006 04:37 PM

CFI Pay
 
Haha, here come the jokes...

Anywho,

If you are a past or currently employed CFI at ATP, Embry-Riddle or a CFI on Florida's east coast can you please post your company's pay structure?

Part-Time, Full-Time, Sim Instructor, Ground Instructor... etc...

Thanks in advance.

-Forest

ctd57 04-23-2006 05:11 AM

ATP Pay
 
ATP pays their instructors $1000.00/month with no taxes taken out. If you live in a furnished apartment that ATP rents from a local complex, the pay goes down to $800.00/month. Also, instructors get bonuses whenever a student has a first time pass. If it a career pilot(full time student) you get $100 for the PVT multi checkride and the instrument checkride. All other checkrides are $40, that includes all other career pilot checkrides and add-on costumers. Ya the pay sucks, but you get all the multi time you need. Depending on the location, you could make more or less, it all depends on how busy they are. My largest check so far was $1300.00. I don't live at the apartment though.

FLightle 04-23-2006 05:58 AM

Wow Thanks for the good info!

Bump, Bump..

Anyone else?

ToiletDuck 04-23-2006 07:46 PM

I would do a little searching. I make around 50k a year as a CFI. I train airforce pilots. I make $25 an hour and am guaranteed all the students I can want. I train 4 guys at a time in two hour slots. So that's 8hrs a day I bill because they only get 25 flight hours and they have to pass the written before they solo. So if it's bad weather I'm still giving them their full two hours. In the afternoons frm 5-7 and 7-9 I train civilians sometimes. It gets pretty tiring but I take it while it's there. I figure with the times I don't fly are made up by those flights in the afternoon.

If I were you I'd stay away from the big places. They make their money two ways. By sticking it to the students and sticking it to the employees. Find you a local FBO somewhere. A place where their primary concern is not flight instructing. A place where their main money comes from elsewhere. Where I fly they charge $27.50 and I get $25.00 of it. Most places charge like $35 and only give $15.00. F that. Just take your time and look for a good place. If you want PM me and I'll give you my login on climbto350.com. You'll get a job if you just hang in there! I was reroofing houses when I found this one. Just give yourself 2-3 months of hard looking and you'll get that job worth getting!

ctd57 04-24-2006 09:07 AM

Toilet Duck
 
Believe me, I am not in it for the money, and being a prior Naval Flight Officer, I would assume, just like they did in Pensacola, that you are doing single engine VFR stuff and getting these guys their private licenses before they ever step foot in an Air Force aircraft. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you are looking to persue a professional career in aviation, it is not about how much money you are making, or who you are training. At a place like ATP, 90% of the instructors do nothing but fly multi-engine aircraft and that is what looks good on resumes. The more multi time, the better. So that is why I pursued a place like this to build up time. I could have easily instructed at a place like that, but if that is all you want to do, then more power to you and I have no problem with that.

FLightle 04-24-2006 12:04 PM

Hey, good stuff...

I appreciate the posts.

Still looking for Florida/Georgia CFI pay because I am relatively limted in outreach due to the fact that I am an Florida Army National Guard pilot in Jacksonville, FL.

ATP sounds like a good way to build that multi-time and JAX is once of their main centers if I am not mistaken...

Still looking to hear more from any Florida/Georgia CFI's!

Thanks,

Forest

ToiletDuck 04-24-2006 04:41 PM

General pay there is around $15 an hour. I had a few offers out there. They seemed to all be around there.

ToiletDuck 04-24-2006 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by ctd57
Believe me, I am not in it for the money, and being a prior Naval Flight Officer, I would assume, just like they did in Pensacola, that you are doing single engine VFR stuff and getting these guys their private licenses before they ever step foot in an Air Force aircraft. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you are looking to persue a professional career in aviation, it is not about how much money you are making, or who you are training. At a place like ATP, 90% of the instructors do nothing but fly multi-engine aircraft and that is what looks good on resumes. The more multi time, the better. So that is why I pursued a place like this to build up time. I could have easily instructed at a place like that, but if that is all you want to do, then more power to you and I have no problem with that.


Well I'm a CFII and I make a decent living flying. To me that is a professional career. But I plan on moving on in 8 months or so. I agree it's all on what you want. There were several things I looked at. Like i said take your time. One thing about an FBO that you don't find at the schools is connections. While hours are good, connections are great. My boss who owns the FBO has a Merlin IIIB that outruns a KingAir350. I meet many people, everything from cloud seeding to border patrol, that has good jobs. To me it is about the money. Among other things like the love of flying. You can be as professional as you want, but what's the point if you can't make a living doing it. I find FBO's get you out of the main stream. If want to get an Airline job you will be better off at ATP or some place like that. If you are like me and want to find something else out there like cargo ect then FBO's are the way to go. I don't care how much multi a guy has, if you meet the requirements and personally own the owner you're in like gin :D

LAfrequentflyer 04-24-2006 05:53 PM

ToiletDuck:

Hands down, you have the coolest avatar on this site...LOL everytime I see that thing...

Thanks,
LAFF

ToiletDuck 04-24-2006 07:31 PM

Took me a couple years of being on-line to find the one i wanted. but i got her! Thanks LA!


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