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Razorback09 02-03-2009 12:30 PM

Questions about careers in aviation - Time away from home
 
I am about to attend flight school at college and im very excited. I have, however, heard a lot about the demanding hours and time away from home that seem synonomous with the pilot job. Its very likely that i'll be married by the time i graduate so i was wondering if any of you had suggestions for pilot career paths that would allow me to spend a good amount of time at home (at nights after work of course). I am not set on getting in a big airline i would be very happy with other jobs. Thanks for your help. (I'm not sure if this is in the correct thread if not I apologize but I didn't see another one that fit)

RomeoSierra 02-03-2009 12:47 PM

Being a CFI. You get to come home at night and a day off every now and then. Try and get a job doining line work at your flight school so you are around all the time and they get to know you better. Then get your CFI there and hopefully they will hire you. Then you will have a steady stream of students from the college and will get plenty of hours in. Best of all you will be home every night.

Razorback09 02-03-2009 01:58 PM

^ I've been seriously considering that. I know for sure that I'll be getting my CFI and the university I'm attending has an awesome deal where they will hire you as a senior and you can stay as long as you like. Any other ideas? If I flew for a small regional airline would the hours be as crazy as they would with a large airline? Also what kind of jobs could I get flying a float plane? (I'm going to come out of college with a Commercial license, CFI, Multi-engine rating, Instrument Rating, and Multi-Engine instructors rating and im planning to get a Seaplane rating also :D )

rickair7777 02-03-2009 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Razorback09 (Post 551475)
^ I've been seriously considering that. I know for sure that I'll be getting my CFI and the university I'm attending has an awesome deal where they will hire you as a senior and you can stay as long as you like. Any other ideas? If I flew for a small regional airline would the hours be as crazy as they would with a large airline? Also what kind of jobs could I get flying a float plane? (I'm going to come out of college with a Commercial license, CFI, Multi-engine rating, Instrument Rating, and Multi-Engine instructors rating and im planning to get a Seaplane rating also :D )

Freelance flight instructing would allow max flexibility and nights at home, and it's easy to get into. After you build a reputation and get into some advanced skills (MEI, GPS, Glass, Cirrus, etc) you can make an acceptable living at it. The downside is the risk, stress, and monotony. Light airplane general aviation is simply not as safe as most turbine jobs. A good pilot can control a lot of the risk, but if you do it long enough, you will have a near-miss or two...or maybe it won't be a miss :(

You could probably find a small turboprop regional with one base and few overnights. But in the long run the work environment and pay would wear you down.

Most large regionals have local trips (home every night)...the problem is that they usually go pretty senior. I would guess in the typical regional domicile you could fly all locals after 2-4 years as an FO or 8-10 as a captain.

After you get some experience, a corporate job might be ideal for you...if you get the right job, you might only do two trips a month. In some cases, the owner might let you fly home commercially and then return later to fly him home. If he knows he's going to be in Aspen for a week, it would be cheaper to fly you home than pay for your hotel and meals.

Ewfflyer 02-04-2009 06:30 AM

You will have to make sacrifices regardless of which track in aviation you take. It's just one of the many things we do. Some of us are luckier than others, but it really just depends on the path that you are presented with and where you want to be in the end.

As a CFI, you'll be local based, unless you do a lot of specialty work where it could take you across the country.

Charter operators hauling freight will have nightly runs. Some companies you get the same thing every night, so you'll end up in the same place all the time at least.

Most airlines, as a start you'll get the worst routes/schedules based on seniority.

As far as getting married, you're young, and just getting started. I thought the same thing when I was headed into college.(Not saying you shouldn't, but things happen, people change, needs change)

Razorback09 02-04-2009 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Ewfflyer (Post 551914)
You will have to make sacrifices regardless of which track in aviation you take. It's just one of the many things we do. Some of us are luckier than others, but it really just depends on the path that you are presented with and where you want to be in the end.

As a CFI, you'll be local based, unless you do a lot of specialty work where it could take you across the country.

Charter operators hauling freight will have nightly runs. Some companies you get the same thing every night, so you'll end up in the same place all the time at least.

Most airlines, as a start you'll get the worst routes/schedules based on seniority.

As far as getting married, you're young, and just getting started. I thought the same thing when I was headed into college.(Not saying you shouldn't, but things happen, people change, needs change)

^ True my career choices are going to be vastly different depending on whether I have a family or not. If I don't it wont be an issue, but I was just making sure there was a way I could work with it if i did in fact get a family early on out of college. I'm willing to make sacrifices but if I have a family the idea of being totally gone 20 days a month isn't appealing to me. Like i said this is all speculation I may go bachelor for a long time :cool: . What about flying bush planes? I realize that would mean relocation to Alaska, Canada, or some such place but it would have a more regular schedule would it not?

rickair7777 02-04-2009 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Razorback09 (Post 552019)
What about flying bush planes? I realize that would mean relocation to Alaska, Canada, or some such place but it would have a more regular schedule would it not?

Very cool flying, but I'm not sure I would recommend it to a family man. That kind of flying is about as risky as it gets in the US...and they do not usually take low-timers anyway.

Razorback09 02-04-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 552106)
Very cool flying, but I'm not sure I would recommend it to a family man. That kind of flying is about as risky as it gets in the US...and they do not usually take low-timers anyway.

Oh ok thanks I realized the risk factor but I was kindof in the dark as to the hour preferences. And oh man do I know about the stress factor involved in teaching! I've given guitar lessons to have a form of income through high school and It's very stressfull but in a strange way I love it. Well I'm not sure what I'll end up doing but I'm glad to see that there are careers flying that would allow me to have a home life also. I just dont think the airlines are for me :) . But I'm sure I want to fly so this is good to hear.

ufgatorpilot 02-04-2009 02:57 PM

I know that at Allegiant they don't have many overnights. There must be some other airlines that are the same way so you could look into doing that as well.

rickair7777 02-04-2009 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by ufgatorpilot (Post 552272)
I know that at Allegiant they don't have many overnights. There must be some other airlines that are the same way so you could look into doing that as well.

That's true, but they are about the only major that can make that claim due to their unique business model.


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