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Spartan College of Aeronautics and Technology
Hey guys im new to this forum and i was wondering if anyone had any info on Spartan College in Oklahoma. Im 23 and have no degree only some community college. I want to become a professional pilot but i dont know wats the best way to go about doing that. Spartan offers the professional pilot program and the option to get a bachelores in science/aviation technology management. If anyone can give me some guidance i would seriously appreciate it!!
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I went to Spartan a while back, 1998 out of high school. It was very expensive back then, so not sure about now. However, I left after about a month there. If you want to be a pro pilot, go for it and do not let people discourage you on it, but you do need to know right now is a horrible time to try to get a flying job (one that pays more than McDonalds). However, when you are ready to compete for a higher end flying job in a few years, hopefully things will have worked out by then and job opportunities available. Get your degree no matter what to have something to fall back on. Do not get an aviation degree! Get something else that you can use in case flying does not work out. I got my bachelor's in aviation from Oklahoma State, but I was smart enough to get a master's degree in finance as well. If you really want the aviation degree, go to a school like Oklahoma State or another well recognized college. Have you considered getting your degree and flying in the military? Whether it being active duty or part time, both are very good ways to get into flying, get your training for free, and make pretty good money while you are doing it. Lots of options out there, and sure you will get a lot of opinions, but like I said above, 100% get your degree. Good luck!
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Thanks for your advice! Yea I was looking at the Air National Guard also. I guess they give u 15k to sign up and 20k if im not mistaken to go to school. I wonder if thats all they offer which it actually pretty good but I'm gonna talk to a recruiter to see exactly how it works. I'm trying to get as least in debt as possible so I'm looking at as many options as possible. But man about Spartan College, it kind of bugs me that not many people have replied giving me the feeling that this college isn't to popular or recognized. Does it matter to the airlines where you got ur education at or is that over rated?
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I went to Spartan. It was a huge mistake that I am still paying for every month. You are much better off going to a state university and majoring in something non aviation. While you are doing that get your pilot certificates/ratings at an FBO. Spartan is over priced and their facilities suck. PM me if you have any specific questions... BTW, airlines could care less where you went to flight school.
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I also went to Spartan back in 1996 out of high school. What a joke that place was. Maybe it has changed but do not go there without seeing the facilities (Mobile home trailers). I echo the comment to check the state schools....at least there is a better male/female ratio ;)
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suppakuppa -
As someone said in another thread once - unless the school you got your ratings from is run by the gov't (read that as military) - no one cares where you got your ratings. I'm a Oklahoma State graduate myself and got my aviation degree from there and my ratings from the local FBO. Spartan was a maintenance school back then so I can't give you any insight to the pilot training programs. USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by Bwatz
(Post 563400)
I went to Spartan. It was a huge mistake that I am still paying for every month. You are much better off going to a state university and majoring in something non aviation. While you are doing that get your pilot certificates/ratings at an FBO. Spartan is over priced and their facilities suck. PM me if you have any specific questions... BTW, airlines could care less where you went to flight school.
How long ago was it that you attended? Because I heard that it used to suck but that its a pretty good school now and that they dont have that "trailer park" anymore. Yea i keep hearing about getting a degree in something else other than aviation but i dont really like anything else. I have a friend who does sign language and says he doesnt make a fortune but it pays ok. Its only a 2 year thing if i want to do that and its fairly easy to get a job interpreting. The only thing is that i dont think that would help me as far as having a degree when i apply for airlines. I can only get an associates if i decide to do that. And around how much does it cost to get your certificates at an FBO. And if i do it like that i would have to borrow the money and its around 50k isnt it? how do i PM you? I think i read that i had to have been a member of this forum for a while to do that. Is that true? I really appreciate your help man thanks!! |
I attended back in 98 thru 2000.. Spartan is a cash cow.. Plain and simple. There are much cheaper options out there than Spartan. If you really want to major in aviation then I am sure some school in your state has an aviation program. I can't find to many guys that say that Spartan was a good investment.. Most all say the same.. Its overpriced.. I actually heard it got worse as the years went by.. That whole Air China debacle.. Good luck on your decision, but make sure you travel down to Tulsa and take a look at the campus before you commit to spending a ridiculous amount of money.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 563444)
suppakuppa -
As someone said in another thread once - unless the school you got your ratings from is run by the gov't (read that as military) - no one cares where you got your ratings. I'm a Oklahoma State graduate myself and got my aviation degree from there and my ratings from the local FBO. Spartan was a maintenance school back then so I can't give you any insight to the pilot training programs. USMCFLYR hey man how did you pay for your certificates at the FBO? Is there some kind of financial aid for that or grants or something? Im thinking the answer is no. did you just burrow the money or are you just loaded?? and if you are how would someone like me that doesnt have much money pay for that? I was actually thinking and wanting to join the military to fly but 1 i dont have a degree and 2 I had lasik eye surgery done and they said i was ineligible to fly with them. |
Originally Posted by suppakuppa
(Post 563658)
hey man how did you pay for your certificates at the FBO? Is there some kind of financial aid for that or grants or something? Im thinking the answer is no. did you just burrow the money or are you just loaded?? and if you are how would someone like me that doesnt have much money pay for that? I was actually thinking and wanting to join the military to fly but 1 i dont have a degree and 2 I had lasik eye surgery done and they said i was ineligible to fly with them.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 563668)
Worked many jobs while going to college and even bartered during my PPL. I got them over time - not all at once like the pilots mills. Yes - in most instances you would need a degree to fly in the military but the Army has the WO program. There are some on here that know quite a bit about it - you can also do a search and learn more. They never called me back so I didn't get much info about it. about the eye surgery - I don't know the current rules and regs but they are easy to figure out on-line or through an officer recruiter.
USMCFLYR How much did you end up paying all together for your certificates and how long exactly did it take you? Sorry i know i ask alot but i just really want to know whats gonna be best for me. I appreciate your help!! |
Sorry SK - but that was over 20 years ago. One - I don't remember, Two - I paid $35/hr for a C-152. Those prices don't exist anymore so any comparison is meaningless.
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ok well thanks alot!!! man that price would be so nice right now!!! But i really appreciate ur help!
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I did Spartan back in '87. I just went a short time for the Comm/instr/multi. They had no college degree offer back then. I did that at a non-aviation school before and after Spartan. While I have no major complaints about the flight training, I have no idea what it is like there now. I wanted loans and fast training. The FBO style flight training I had been doing before was slow because it was pay as you fly and I had NO money.
Tulsa sucks. It was a very boring town. I worked at Tulsa airport nights to help pay for flight training. I got out as soon as possible. I got all my CFI ratings at my "home" airport's FBO later. |
Originally Posted by Ottopilot
(Post 566002)
I did Spartan back in '87. I just went a short time for the Comm/instr/multi. They had no college degree offer back then. I did that at a non-aviation school before and after Spartan. While I have no major complaints about the flight training, I have no idea what it is like there now. I wanted loans and fast training. The FBO style flight training I had been doing before was slow because it was pay as you fly and I had NO money.
Tulsa sucks. It was a very boring town. I worked at Tulsa airport nights to help pay for flight training. I got out as soon as possible. I got all my CFI ratings at my "home" airport's FBO later. You and I were sharing OK airspace togehter back in the day! I started flying around that time out of Riverside and Tulsa Int'l in '86. I can't say that I have quite as severe opinion of Tulsa actually. Maybe I viewed it differently since I grew up in small town Oklahoma :) I didn't even know that Spartan did flight training back in that timeframe. I thought they were strictly a maintenance school back then. USMCFLYR |
Hey there. I asked this same question a while back and I never heard any good comments about spartan.
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North Dakota
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 566236)
Otto -
You and I were sharing OK airspace togehter back in the day! I started flying around that time out of Riverside and Tulsa Int'l in '86. I can't say that I have quite as severe opinion of Tulsa actually. Maybe I viewed it differently since I grew up in small town Oklahoma :) I didn't even know that Spartan did flight training back in that timeframe. I thought they were strictly a maintenance school back then. USMCFLYR |
Hi suppakuppa, i'm in a similar situation so I thought that I would reply also. I'm 22, and have about 45 hours of college. I would really like to be a pilot someday, possibly even commercially, but before I think of pursing flying I am going to finish my degree.
In my life experience, everything takes more time and money than you think it will at the start. College and flight training are both expensive, and if money is an issue for you at all, it will probably be harder than you think to make progress at both at the same time. Finish school in something lucrative, and in demand like accounting, finance or engineering. It will help you throughout your whole life, and you will be able to get your life on track after college while you are getting your pilot training, instead of sinking into more debt (not the best prospect in this economy). I'm about to transfer to an engineering school, and I just got a job as a baggage handler at the airport. Hopefully I will make enough money after college to afford to pay for lessons out of pocket, and pay all of my bills at the same time. Have you looked into a degree in some sort of engineering? I'm really biased because i'm an engineering major, but it is a great field. Plus the education you get in an engineering program can help you out in anything you do, as it is basically a scientific problem solving degree! If you can refine your real life problem solving skills you will succeed at everything you do, and given your interest in flying, you probably have an interest in technical things also. Just thought you might like the opinion of someone in the same position as you. Good luck! |
[quote=Ian178;566778]Hi suppakuppa, i'm in a similar situation so I thought that I would reply also. I'm 22, and have about 45 hours of college. I would really like to be a pilot someday, possibly even commercially, but before I think of pursing flying I am going to finish my degree.
Hey man thanks for your reply. Yeah I think I'm leaning towards getting my degree. The only thing Im afraid of is that when airlines start hiring again I wont be ready in time. I dont even know if thats something to worry about but its just something that bothers me. Im also looking into getting a quick associates degree in sign language that would pay me more than a regular job. I've always been interested in learning sign language but the only thing that sucks about it is that it wont help me get hired at any airline as far as needing to have a degree i dont think. But its really easy to get a job translating and even working part time is ok as far as needing to get bills paid. But again I dont know if I want to take to long in getting started with flight training. I'll know this week if I get accepted to Spartan College and I'll be very tempted to just go ahead and go but man I dont know!! Im 24 in October. I know im still young but i havent done anything as far as getting something major accomplished in my life and i just want to get started! But i dont want my lack of patience make me do something im gonna regret. Is an aviation degree really that bad? I dont think it is its just the "putting all your eggs in one basket" thing that i think everyone is warning me about. Im glad you got ur stuff together though! Congrats!! |
Originally Posted by suppakuppa
(Post 567007)
Hey man thanks for your reply. Yeah I think I'm leaning towards getting my degree. The only thing Im afraid of is that when airlines start hiring again I wont be ready in time. I dont even know if thats something to worry about but its just something that bothers me. Im also looking into getting a quick associates degree in sign language that would pay me more than a regular job. I've always been interested in learning sign language but the only thing that sucks about it is that it wont help me get hired at any airline as far as needing to have a degree i dont think. But its really easy to get a job translating and even working part time is ok as far as needing to get bills paid. But again I dont know if I want to take to long in getting started with flight training. I'll know this week if I get accepted to Spartan College and I'll be very tempted to just go ahead and go but man I dont know!! Im 24 in October. I know im still young but i havent done anything as far as getting something major accomplished in my life and i just want to get started! But i dont want my lack of patience make me do something im gonna regret. Is an aviation degree really that bad? I dont think it is its just the "putting all your eggs in one basket" thing that i think everyone is warning me about. Im glad you got ur stuff together though! Congrats!!
If that's still not enough for you then try and get your masters in another field while flying. Hey if all that fails get into doing stupid stuff and get paid for it like on "jackass" or "viva la bam" and all the other shows like that they have now. But I really wouldn't go to Spartan haven't heard anything good about them on any aviation forum |
Another option would be ATP if you are worried about not being ready when they start hiring again. You could be ready in about 10 months through them. And I haven't heard anything bad about them on here.
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I attended Spartan and loved it! The school has ok facilities but what is top notch is the education. I have many friends who attended other top schools in the country and the education I recieved was second to none.
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I went to spartan, in '93-96. I have no complaints about the school itself, It was expenceive, and Tulsa... Well I just didn't like Tulsa. I loved the Blue Rose Cafe, and Claude's Hamburgers the only two highights in town.
There was no Fin-Aid for part 61 Schools back then, and I needed the loans. The education itself was great, the planes were well taken care of, and they had some really great instructors. |
I attended Spartan from '02 to '06. Spartan is very expensive and I will be very much in debt for another 15 years or so. The training I received at Spartan, however, was priceless. I currently work as a flight instructor at a small school in north Texas. I miss Tulsa and would consider returning to work at Spartan as a CFI. Compared to the DFW area, Tulsa is a wonderful place to live. Just thought I would try to balance all of the negative opinions already posted here.
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Did my A&P through Spartan back in 02-04 Spartan is considered the Harvard of A&P schools other than that its a money pit i watched many "flight students" drop out with no ratings and 20K in debt
But the name Spartan got me a wrench job paying 55K a year out of school cause the DM was a 76' Spartan grad, My advice dont get stuck in that money pit. I did all my flight ratings 61 and glad i did. But Tulsa is cheap, 3.2% beer sucks and the women are hot. But like most flight schools the weak get weeded out. |
The financing is how they stick it to people
I'm an Oklahoma State Grad (Stillwater) and instructed for Oklahoma State for a couple years during school and a little bit after I finished. You probably have the message already, but i wanted to put a little finer point on it in case you haven't looked at it this way......... The main reason Spartan gets by with charging so much for flight time and instruction is that they facilitate getting the loans for you so you can way overspend for training.
I did a lot of my training at Christiansen lease a plane which is just down the road from Spartan at Jones Riverside airport and the wet hourly rate (with fuel) was about 1/3 as much as it was at Spartan. So for basically 3 times as much money, they'll provide you with the financing to do it. Not a good deal in my book, but i guess it works for some people. If you can find a way to scrape together some money bartending, cashing in savings bonds, beg your relatives etc, you'll be way ahead of the game financially. Going into your career as an instructor and later as a regional pilot will be MUCH easier (still bad, but doable) if you avoid the huge debt. I have no horse in this race but if you're in the Tulsa area, call Christiansen lease a plane and ask them for Wayne Cothran's number. He is an ex corporate pilot that is a free lance instructor and he is fantastic and has no interest in padding his logbooks on someone else's dime. I am a mainline pilot, several time regional pilot, instructor for a couple of years, and there are things I learned from him that still serve me well today. I seem to recall that he prefers to train people for the more advanced ratings, but even if he doesn't fly with you, he's a good guy to know for your more advanced ratings and he'll steer you in the right direction for your private. Do whatever you think is best, but I think a small flight school (Lease a plane has great rates!) will serve you much better than a pricy flight school. |
Im an instructor in texas and I heard that Spartan was shutting down their pilot training program. It really surprised me, but it might be worth looking into.
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Stay away from spartan, they are more worried about their international contract than they are paying american students. The recruters lied to me to get me into the school, when I found out about it I decided to leave. There is a clause in the contract you sign that says if you leave the school they get a percentage of your contract in my case 8000$ of lost money.
From what I hear Spartan used to be a good school back in the day, I know a few people that went through there, this is no longer the case. After I left spartan I sat a year out, 2010 I went to ATP in Dallas. ATP lived up to everything they said they would do over the phone, but ATP is no joy ride. You will have to study everynight sim and flying everyday. ATP's airplanes were top notch I flew a few (3-10) hour 2010 airplanes. The Dallas "Apartments" were on campus they were alittle run down and basic, but you had 24hr access to the sims free of charge. Anyway, long story short I would advise you to go anywhere besides Spartan. |
**** spartan and everything it stand for!!!!!
**** **** **** SPARTAN!!!!!!!. THE WORST DESISION I'VE MADE IN MY EXISTENCE!!!!!!!! I wanted to take the flight program the recruiter told me I could and did paperwork I moved over seas 24 hour plane trip came to Tulsa Oklahoma, went to the flight campus they didn't have me on the roster. I then went back to my recruiter that ****head laughed in my face and told me I had to take avionics before I take the flight courses. I failed all my avionics courses it wasn't the subject I was interested in. I then went back to my recruiter he told me you could've gone to the flight school, I don't have to tell you what happened from there you got the picture. Then when the school had visitors the administration THREATEN the students to say nothing but good things about the school or get expelled. SPARTAN CREDITS DONT TRANSFER The students are learning on broken out of date equipment teachers don't give a **** if you pass or fail the OVER CHARGE ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING BOTTLE WATER. Students who live in the dorms live in **** POOR CONDITIONS. PLUS SPARTAN LOST IT ACCREDITATION LONG AGO. THEY DON'T HELP STUDENTS FIND JOBS AFTER GRADUATION. **** **** **** YOU SPARTAN YOU RUINED MY LIFE COST ME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THE SCHOOL NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN AND NEVER REOPEN *****ES MAKE ME SICK!!!!! DON'T GO TO THIS SCHOOL IT'S NOT WORTH IT. ALL THESE SO CALLED POSITIVE POST ARE CREATED BY THE STAFF TO GET SOMEWHAT OF A GOOD REP. NOTHING FOOD COMES FROM THE SCHOOL. PLEASE I URGE YOU DON'T GO TO THIS GOD FORSAKEN SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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