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Old 12-02-2008, 09:47 PM
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Im a CFI and i was wondering if I log the landings in my log book or i just leave them blank? Ive asked around my flight school and have different views on all of them. Some say if you touch the controls at all then you can, others say you can log them since they are not rated for the plane and one guy said that you dont log them at all.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:35 PM
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Why would you. Do you land the airplane or does your student? I just put a line through the column, just because you touch the control 2 seconds before touchdown doesn't mean you should log it. Plus it getting harder to fit landing totals in my logbook.
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:07 AM
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Plus it getting harder to fit landing totals in my logbook.
I don't even log landing totals anymore, after a few thousand it's really pointless unless you want something to talk about.

As far as logging landings, I'd log one occasionally to keep my currency if I was getting close, otherwise I'd also log if I strictly did the demonstration of that landing with the student following along.
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The only official FAA purpose to log landings is for passenger currency. If you look at the landing currency reg, it very clearly says that in order to log a a landing for currency, a person must be the "sole manipulator of the controls" for the landing.

Period.

If you want to log students' landings for some other purpose (I'm not sure why, but for some reason some CFIs want to), differentiate them in some way so the FAA never has to question whether you were falsifying your logbook.
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NoyGonnaDoIt View Post
The only official FAA purpose to log landings is for passenger currency. If you look at the landing currency reg, it very clearly says that in order to log a a landing for currency, a person must be the "sole manipulator of the controls" for the landing.

Period.

If you want to log students' landings for some other purpose (I'm not sure why, but for some reason some CFIs want to), differentiate them in some way so the FAA never has to question whether you were falsifying your logbook.
This guy is correct. Be careful that you do not end up using student landings for currency. Basically only one person can log any given landing. If you use a dual-given landing for currency, the FAA might go look at your student's logbook...that same landing had better NOT be in his book too
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thanks for the info it was very useful in answering my question.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Basically only one person can log any given landing. :
Unless you're doing an Autoland in a two-pilot rated aircraft, then both get credit, but that's a whole different situation. The autopilots land, but the pilots get the credit!?
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
This guy is correct. Be careful that you do not end up using student landings for currency. Basically only one person can log any given landing. If you use a dual-given landing for currency, the FAA might go look at your student's logbook...that same landing had better NOT be in his book too
But how would you prove the same landing? Lets say I put 3 in mine, 3 in theirs, and unless it was a .5 flight, then how could you really differentiate? It's not meant to be flame-bait, just seeing how you could really prove it as they are just numbers.
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer View Post
But how would you prove the same landing? Lets say I put 3 in mine, 3 in theirs, and unless it was a .5 flight, then how could you really differentiate? It's not meant to be flame-bait, just seeing how you could really prove it as they are just numbers.
Heh, I was kinda thinking the same. We just gotta be honest with ourselves.

I'll only log a landing if I actually was demo-ing. If I helped my student a little with the flare or threw in some right rudder at the last second to avoid a side-load, I certainly don't count that as mine. My rule of thumb is that if I let my student log it, I had better not logged it too.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:58 PM
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What about instrument approaches? Only if conducted in real IMC? What if you are with a student pilot and you have to fly the approach to get back into the airport, but you only go through one cloud layer and it is about 30 seconds thick?
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