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04-19-2009, 12:30 PM
#31
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
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Sheppard Air is closer to $150 once you drive to a testing center and add the testing fee, right?
I think it comes down to $150 vs $300.
The $300 option takes no prior study, done in around 6 hours and walk out with the written.
the $150 takes a few days of light studying and then going to a testing center to take the test.
I think it just comes down to the individual. Some would rather pay 300 and get it done on a Saturday, some would rather save 150 bucks and spend a few days at the house studying for it.
It all depends on what you want.
I think it comes down to $150 vs $300.
The $300 option takes no prior study, done in around 6 hours and walk out with the written.
the $150 takes a few days of light studying and then going to a testing center to take the test.
I think it just comes down to the individual. Some would rather pay 300 and get it done on a Saturday, some would rather save 150 bucks and spend a few days at the house studying for it.
It all depends on what you want.
04-19-2009, 12:49 PM
#33
The NeverEnding Story
Joined APC: Sep 2005
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...or you just buy a red Gleim book, study for an hour or two each day for a week or two (if that much), and pass it with a score in the low 80s. Total cost for study guide plus CATS/Lasergrade knowledge test - about $100.
If you've been flying 121, the test is a JOKE...outside of the performance and w&b questions, which you just memorize the answers and the simple weight shift equation.
If you've been flying 121, the test is a JOKE...outside of the performance and w&b questions, which you just memorize the answers and the simple weight shift equation.
04-19-2009, 01:28 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
...or you just buy a red Gleim book, study for an hour or two each day for a week or two (if that much), and pass it with a score in the low 80s. Total cost for study guide plus CATS/Lasergrade knowledge test - about $100.
If you've been flying 121, the test is a JOKE...outside of the performance and w&b questions, which you just memorize the answers and the simple weight shift equation.
If you've been flying 121, the test is a JOKE...outside of the performance and w&b questions, which you just memorize the answers and the simple weight shift equation.
People forget that regardless of which route you take, you're still gonna have to study a lot and memorize. I don't see myself studying for 6 hours straight. That'd bring me to the borderline of insanity.
04-19-2009, 03:37 PM
#35
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So I took everyone's advise and looked into the Sheppardair.com version. I downloaded the free trial with 61 questions, went through them once with the correct answers. Waited a little while then went through them again with the answers and questions mixed up and got a 92%!. It is amazing how your mind immediately picks out the right answer. There were some where I did not even need to read the questions. I know the full version will have 700+ questions to look through but get 92% right only going through once impresses me enough to buy this program. Thank you to all who recommended it. I figure 3 or 4 days of studying the 700+ questions should be more than sufficent. I will be interested in how the performance and figure questions pan out. Thanks again!!
04-19-2009, 05:21 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
2nd vote for ATP. Arrived at 9am, left at 3pm with it all done.
04-19-2009, 07:52 PM
#37
Chief Jeppesen Updater
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Executive Transport Driver
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I too did ATP's test prep and recommend it.
I also recommend their method of study... only look at the correct answers. (IE rote memorization of question and answer).
If you study using the gleim, I suggest you study in this manner as well. Simply cross off all of the incorrect answers and study the correct ones.
The fact is that all writtens are kind of stupid any more. Most of the materials are out dated or you already know (or should) from training. The whole thing is simply an exercise to "check the box". The real checking of whether you know the material happens in training and the checkride.
I also recommend their method of study... only look at the correct answers. (IE rote memorization of question and answer).
If you study using the gleim, I suggest you study in this manner as well. Simply cross off all of the incorrect answers and study the correct ones.
The fact is that all writtens are kind of stupid any more. Most of the materials are out dated or you already know (or should) from training. The whole thing is simply an exercise to "check the box". The real checking of whether you know the material happens in training and the checkride.
04-20-2009, 06:01 AM
#38
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B747-400 FO
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by kdoner
The ATP 121 is good for 135 and 121....
The ATP 135 is ONLY GOOD FOR 135.... NOT FOR 121.
TAKE THE 121!!!!
The ATP 135 is ONLY GOOD FOR 135.... NOT FOR 121.
TAKE THE 121!!!!
This is absolutely not true. I took the 135 version back when I was flying 135. I am now flying 121, and had no problems with the interview or anything. The 135 test is much easier... not only are there less calculations, but there are less regulations to memorize. I had the gleim cd, that I got for free from my flight school, studied a couple of days, and passed the test with a 90% in about 10 min. Total cost: $80 to the testing center.
04-20-2009, 06:19 AM
#39
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Position: 757/767
Posts: 588
Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Take the 121 exam, it's not too different.
Comair requires ATP written to be hired. I took mine in January 07 a few days before I started. I was furloughed January 09....so, back to studying for it again because it expired since I was furloughed.
Comair requires ATP written to be hired. I took mine in January 07 a few days before I started. I was furloughed January 09....so, back to studying for it again because it expired since I was furloughed.
04-21-2009, 08:10 AM
#40
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Posts: 32
Dash:
I did the Sheppard Air too. I studied sproadically for about two weeks and got a 98% in about 10 minutes. Sheppard has figured out a pattern for you to memorize for the performance questions, that really simplify things.
Good luck
I did the Sheppard Air too. I studied sproadically for about two weeks and got a 98% in about 10 minutes. Sheppard has figured out a pattern for you to memorize for the performance questions, that really simplify things.
Good luck
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