Flight Training AND TSA Requirements
12-31-2008, 07:11 PM
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Flight Training AND TSA Requirements
I have a new 135 job but there is going to be some flight instruction opportunity on the side. It will be part 61. I was just curious as to exactly what I will have to do for the TSA/FAA to be a legal instructor. It has been about a year since I instructed. Thanks all.
01-01-2009, 08:31 AM
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I'm faced with that myself. I'm going to be teaching a relative, so it looks like I will need to do the online training: http://download.tsa.dhs.gov/fssa/training/
I think there are also some requirements to verify the identity of your students, which won't apply to me.
I think there are also some requirements to verify the identity of your students, which won't apply to me.
01-01-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'm faced with that myself. I'm going to be teaching a relative, so it looks like I will need to do the online training: pla_uge Profile
I think there are also some requirements to verify the identity of your students, which won't apply to me.
I think there are also some requirements to verify the identity of your students, which won't apply to me.
01-01-2009, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy
I have a new 135 job but there is going to be some flight instruction opportunity on the side. It will be part 61. I was just curious as to exactly what I will have to do for the TSA/FAA to be a legal instructor. It has been about a year since I instructed. Thanks all.
The three big ones are the citizenship verification, the alien registration, and the annual security awareness training rickair mentioned.
On the verification requirement, you also need to review the 2004 interpretive letter that limited the types of training that trigger the requirement: http://www.befa.org/pub/tsa_cfr49_pa...r-20041019.pdf
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01-01-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Because I'm teaching a family member...I already know he's a US citizen 
The whole thing is relatively ridiculous and the ridiculousness doesn't exempt relatives.
01-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Yeah it's something like FAR part 1335, it's way in the back and untouched usually. From how I've understood it though, it doesn't matter if you're a flight school or a contract instructor, you need to have documented proof of U.S. citizenship available on file before training can begin. Yay, regulations!!
01-01-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NoyGonnaDoIt
So? I haven't come across something in the rules that exempts you from either keeping the required record or making the required endorsement just because you personally know they are a citizen. This is a pure paperwork requirement not a knowledge requirement.
The whole thing is relatively ridiculous and the ridiculousness doesn't exempt relatives.
The whole thing is relatively ridiculous and the ridiculousness doesn't exempt relatives.
01-02-2009, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's my kid...I have all kinds of records about him on file. Am I supposed to make an endorsement? In whose logbook?
1. Keep the required identity documents in your files for 5 years; or
2. Make the following endorsement in both your and the student's lolgbook:
I certify that [insert student's name] has presented me a [insert type of document presented, such as a U.S. birth certificate or U.S. passport, and the relevant control or sequential number on the document, if any] establishing that [he or she] is a U.S. citizen or national in accordance with 49 CFR 1552.3(h). [Insert date and instructor's signature and CFI number.
If it your kid and not a more remote relative, you probably have some of the documents in your permanent files (birth certificate). And, if it's your kid or a sibling and not a more remote relative, I wouldn't worry about it either, although technicalities are technicalities.
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