C175

American Flyers is a school that has been around for 60 years and was founded on the need for training instrument pilots. And that's their bread and butter today. I don't really think they are "hiding" anything about multi time, they just don't concentrate on it. If you want multi go to ATP, if you want to know how to fly on instruments and not kill yourself once you take an approach down to mins and have to go missed and then some, go to Flyers.

rickair7777

They are pretty good about instruments...you will be encouraged to fly in actual during your instrument training which is something that not all flight schools even allow

But they do not provide any opportunities to build ME time and to make it worse, they do not allow their instructors to even work as an MEI on the side! I had to do MEI work on the DL, even though I was not competeting with them in the multi market. I eventually just quit flyers to do MEI only. They create this little bubble of unreality where ME time just isn't important...they have 1800 hour single-engine only CFI's who wake up one day and realize they are screwed! Actually a fair number of AF alumni can be found in the caravan world...which is a dead end.

Unless you are CURRENTLY employed as an MEI, you need to start scamming for every minute of twin time you can get, as early in the game as possible, even while you are still working on other ratings.

Thedude

As a former instructor there, I can whole heartly say. you can get the same (or better) training somewhere else for a whole lot cheaper.

As an instructor, you don't make much but you get the numbers in the book at a pretty good pace.

aussieflyboy

I can back that up, I'm a current CFI/II with American Flyers. The pay for instructors isn't that flash but you can build a whole lot of time very quickly (I've averaged 75 hours a month since I started).

The CFI/II academy is a great deal, I went through it myself in January. You get to practice teaching as well as learn all you need to know for the ratings and the practical experience you'll need as an instructor. Word of warning though, be sure to come prepared for some hard work, as you'll only get out of the class what you're prepared to put in.

Here in PMP, the academy is given by a man who is a wealth of instructional and aviation knowledge. You get a decent amount of flight time and unlimited trainer time, as well as many hours of classroom instruction.

Be advised, American Flyers PMP does do multiengine training and it is a little on the pricey side, but the instruction is given by some of the best instructors in the business, and you'll learn a whole lot by training with them.

One of the problems with instructing here is that there's no multi time to be had though, because of the sheer quality of the incumbent twin instructors.

I'm writing this as an instructor but also as a former student (instrument, commercial, CFI/II) here and I can honestly say that I had a great time, learned a whole lot, and wouldn't change a thing if I had to do it all over again.

Jonesthepilot

i work at AF and they give me salary of 2k a month regardless how much i fly

Future SWA CAPT

How would you rate the training program there?

Jonesthepilot

its on the pricey side, but its a good 141 school. I really dont know of any 141 schools that are a bargain. no big gripes here, everything is just so so.

aussieflyboy

yep im on 2k a month as well. what school are you at jones?

Jonesthepilot

HPN brotha

AirWillie

Jones/aussieflyboy, how much does the program cost? Say I wanted to go from instrument to CFI? How long would it take?