Definition of Dual Given
 

Hello fellow CFIs,
just out of curious how you define "Dual Given".......only flight time(real airplane), or including sim or even ground??

You can have dual given in a sim, it's just that most people only care about dual given in airplanes

So when some CFI job says "minimum 200hr dual given", it means 200 in the airplane?

I wouldn't assume that. Dual given (instruction time) should be considered in a sim. I've done a fair amount of ground trainer instruction and I don't see any reason to consider such time second class. A ground trainer is a tool to enhance learning and make IFR training more efficient. The instruction you provide in a ground trainer is no different than than doing the same in an airplane.

I keep my dual given in an airplane in the logbook. Ive got a side spreadsheet with sim time.

When people ask for instruction time I just add the two together.

Yeah definitely keep them separate. I put sim dual in my logbook but with it's own column. It might help you get a job some day, but it does not count for ANY other category of flight time.

If someone asks you for dual, they mean airplane-dual unless they specify otherwise.

ThanX, that's a good idea to keep them separated,
may be some day i'll apply for a sim instructor, who knows!
I was mix them together (sim and plane), but i only have 250 dual given currently, so that shouldn't take me too much time to correct it.

By the way, i've just cross 200 dual given bar after 3 months instructing, and i do feel Great!!

The FAA regs with respect to logging time don't suggest you need to separate ground trainer instruction. I wouldn't suggest going into your logbook and making corrections over this. That could draw unneeded attention to what you were trying to do with your logbook at an interview. In any case, if someone asks about it, have a good pre-thought-out story of why you did it. That story should include references to FAR's.

I'd say your best bet would be to call them up and ask them what they think. That way you can be sure of what they want, and the more contact you make with a potential employer, the more likely somone will remember you when looking through that pile of applications.

Then again, the FAA regs with respect to logging time don't require you to log dual given at all. There was actually a move some years ago by the FAA to require CFIs to include their dual give time on 8710s for renewal – until someone pointed out that logging dual given wasn't required).

I wouldn't go through my logbook making corrections either although, once the issue comes up, I might read through my logbook, do a summary totals entry and start separating them counting forward.

Of course, this is one of those things that electronic logbooks excel at - being able to query data to get totals on what you need at the time.