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Purpleanga 03-26-2010 06:59 PM

It's for the better. This way kids won't be robbed of a real education.

Bwatsky 03-26-2010 08:20 PM

Everyone got screwed with this, especially the instructors and staff of the program. It is pathetic how it was presented as well, Nadine Dowling stood there with no remorse and told students that they were ending the program that the college was founded on. when asked for a reason all she said was the the students did not get enough return on their investment for the first 15 years of employment and they (ITT/ESI) did not either. this was simpley a buisness investment for them that inturn made them a few bucks while negetivley effecting the lives of staff and students as well as the community and KASH.

usmc-sgt 03-27-2010 05:03 AM

What is DWC South East going to do now when hiring picks up ie. Alpha Flying?

That place is like grad school to DWC.

Bwatsky 03-27-2010 07:50 AM

I was thinking about that. if they were hiring right now they would have some instructors to pick up. also MHT ramp half the staff has to be from dwc

Paws 03-27-2010 11:20 AM

RIP to the AFO program at Webster! As an alumni I can say it truly was one of a kind.

How do they plan on keeping instructors/professors around to graduate the current students?

2StgTurbine 03-27-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Paws (Post 784902)
How do they plan on keeping instructors/professors around to graduate the current students?

That is a great question. The professors have made a career out of this and are attached to the students, so they will stay until the end. The instructors never plan on being there that long and they don't make that much money. They will leave as soon as they get another job. It is going to be hard to get CFIs who will be willing to work for a flight school that will see less flying every day and will be gone in three years or sooner.

Paws 03-27-2010 07:17 PM

I suggest a protest - put the benchs back on the roof :D

rickair7777 03-27-2010 08:14 PM

While the alums may be bummed out, at least the kids will get to finish...that's a better deal than puppy mill students get when THEIR school closes.

Honestly I find it hard to argue with ITT on their reasoning...any rational calculation of return-on-investment simply does justify the cost of a four-year aviation program. Trust-fund babies are one thing, but most students will be in debt for decades, with nothing but bus-driver wages to show for it (not counting the 1% who will finish as widebody CA's at FDX).

It seems like ITT took the ethical road...just because the students are blinded by their passion does not mean that it's OK for institutions to take their money.

2StgTurbine 03-28-2010 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 785140)
While the alums may be bummed out, at least the kids will get to finish...that's a better deal than puppy mill students get when THEIR school closes.

Honestly I find it hard to argue with ITT on their reasoning...any rational calculation of return-on-investment simply does justify the cost of a four-year aviation program. Trust-fund babies are one thing, but most students will be in debt for decades, with nothing but bus-driver wages to show for it (not counting the 1% who will finish as widebody CA's at FDX).

It seems like ITT took the ethical road...just because the students are blinded by their passion does not mean that it's OK for institutions to take their money.

That is true, but why not try to reduce the training costs first?. $165 an hour for a 172 and $125 an hour for a CFI is way above normal rates. There are plenty of FBOs that offer great training from great CFIs at cheaper rates.

Mach Tuck 03-31-2010 02:22 PM

LATEST NEWS!!

DWC is in jeopardy of losing its AABI accreditation. The soonest it would loose accreditation is July 2010, the latest July 2011. For those who do not understand look up H.R. 3371 and look under flight time and ground time for accredited collegiate flight programs....


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