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erj145aviator 07-28-2006 08:51 AM

Anyone go to the Gulfstream Academy?
 
Is the Gulfstream Academy’s First Officer Program worth it…any surprises or hidden costs? I’m just about done with ATP’s 90-Day Airline Career Pilot Program and need a way to build my time to get into the Regional Airlines. I really don't wan't to instruct, so im looking for other ways...

Thanks.

POPA 07-28-2006 09:19 AM

You'd rather buy yourself a job than let other people pay you for your time? Shady...

erj145aviator 07-28-2006 10:06 AM

How so? I'll get my seniority faster and build better quality time by getting into the regional airlines as quickly as possible. As far as I know there isn't anything else out there that can give you the same quality of time. If there is, let me know.

To keep the thread on topic, any information on Gulfstream Academy’s First Officer Program would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

desertdog71 07-28-2006 10:13 AM

If you want to buy time, I have a smoking deal on some C-150 time. ;)

I would avoid the Gulfstream route like the plague. It sounds great at first, but you really should do some more thought and research.

Of course when a persons first post is about Gulfstream, I have to be a bit suspicious. :)

surreal1221 07-28-2006 10:14 AM

Why do you not want to instruct? I'm a little lost on that concept.

Nevertheless, just take a few moments and think about what you are about to do.

Instead of having someone else pay you for your service, you will be paying an airline for your service. A little backwards correct? Yes.

Second, why not just buy 200 hours worth of multi engine time at your local FBO. Then apply to the regionals? Who knows, you may save money. Gulfstream is a sick trap, I sure hope you don't take out a loan for the job.

Pilotpip 07-28-2006 10:55 AM

Going $150k into debt for a job that will pay about $20K for the first couple years... Smart.

POPA 07-28-2006 11:15 AM

Directly from GTA's website: "The overall program is expected to take approximately seven months to complete." During these seven months, you log 522 hours of flight time. As a CFI, you can log significantly more hours in the same amount of time, and get paid to do it. With GTA, you're paying for the flight time, room & board, and "required uniforms." Plus, if you go the instruction route, you'll have had experience as a commercial pilot- airlines like that.

Maybe it's because I've actually spent time instructing, and might go do some more, but I take issue with people buying themselves a job.

de727ups 07-28-2006 11:41 AM

"As far as I know there isn't anything else out there that can give you the same quality of time"

The experience of building time as a CFI, in the overall scheme of things, IS better quality than renting the right seat at Gulfstream. The vast majority of professional pilots see it that way and dislike Gulfstream style PFJ.

surreal1221 07-28-2006 12:30 PM

You know, I'm just not buying into this.

Looking at his username, I'm only left to assume he could be a troll. . .with nothing better to do than ask the age old Gulfstream pro and con question.

erj145aviator 07-28-2006 12:49 PM

It’s a legit question… I’m trying to stay ahead to properly plan my career preparation. I don’t want to instruct because that job is being more of a teacher than pilot. I want to fly the larger, faster, more exciting aircraft…not a 172. If I do end up becoming a flight instructor I don’t know if I want to stay with ATP all the way to the end(CFI Academy), or get as much money back and get it somewhere else. Mainly because I hear many places look down on atp CFI’s because of how quickly they got it done. I would like to fly the Embraer 145, so that’s what I chose as my username. I’m simply asking a very specific question; if you don’t have any useful information, don’t reply. It’s quite obvious that many people don’t like Gulfstream Academy, but if you don’t like it…why? How would that effect hiring chances with the airlines…

Thanks.


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