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Old 06-24-2010, 08:57 AM
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TTOP, Your best friend is flight time. There is nothing more valuable than flight time. It is a simple concept to grasp...

"The only real way of placing a definitive number on how experienced a pilot is (should be) is the amount of you have flown and the insurance providers to airlines know this, that is why the more time you have, the cheaper you could be to insure, and why an airline would choose you over someone with less time (all else equal)"

Now, I don't agree 100% with this idea however, it is the unfortunate reality of our business.

As for the Multi-time bit, Multi-time is a necessity that you will have to get. I do NOT agree with people when they say that SE time is useless (see above) however, if TT is your silver, than ME time is your gold/diamond. It is not a 100% necessity (there are many 135/random flying jobs that just fly SE planes like Cessna Caravans/PC-12's n such) however, you will be much better off with ME time too.

Lastly, the way to get ME time to get your CFI and MEI, and get paid (a little is better then shelling out $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for it) AND Earn your ME Time. When you do the PFT, you are contributing to the reason why this industry's first step flying jobs SUCK THE BIG ONE for pay and such. Every single first step pilot employer knows that as long as PFT crap continues, then REGARDLESS OF HOW BADLY THEY PAY and how MISERABLE the pilots' QOL is, people will still apply.

Please, for the industry's (and thus, YOUR) sake, DON'T BE THAT GUY!!!
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mshunter View Post
I worked everyday (yes seven days a week) for two+ years striaght. And now I fly charter in a PA-31. I have no desire to be a 121 pilot. It's to impersonal for me. Perfect example, I fly a gentleman regularly back and forth to Vegas. I get a $200 tip on the way there, and depending on how well he does while he's there, I get a tip starting at $200 on the way back. But, I also spend some of that tip money to make sure the airplane is well stocked for him so he enjoy's his ride. My boss knows my name. He buys me lunch when I'm there around lunch time. I get overnight pay, per-diem, bonuses, etc. When an airplane needs working on, I come in to help out and get mechanics pay(because I want to, not because I have to). I get right seat time in a Lear, and hopefully a Challenger 601 soon. There is lots more out there than airlines. But, the "dark side" is more of who you know than how well you do on any interview. My interview consisted of a few simple questions, and we BS'ed for a while to see if we would get along on extended stays while on trips.
That sounds great! Congrats!
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IMO, your ONLY purpose for flying SE airplanes (after you get your ratings) is because you are building seniority at a company which will let you fly twins after you have been there long enough.
Rather short sighted and "uppity" if you ask me.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
Rather short sighted and "uppity" if you ask me.
"Uppity"? What the hell are you talking about?

Short sighted? Where did you build your time? The military?

In the CFI world it's very easy to get into the ASEL groove and keep building time. I have seen guys with 2500 TT and 10 ME...they are the king of ASEL, usually 141 Chiefs or check airmen. But it doesn't do them any good...they all have to start over somewhere else to get their ME time up.

I'm trying to emphasize that entry-level CFI's should have a plan to get their ME time. If their current job won't provide it, they need to be looking for one that will. This is the hardest part of getting from CFI to 121. It's easy to fool yourself and not worry about the future if you are building ASEL time but it's in your best interest to focus on the real meat of the problem early on.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:58 AM
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Knowing what I've spent to get to 100TT and thinking how much more 100+hr of ME time would cost, it seems so daunting at this point.

How many hours of training does it typically take to earn a MEI?
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NoseUpAttitude View Post
Knowing what I've spent to get to 100TT and thinking how much more 100+hr of ME time would cost, it seems so daunting at this point.

How many hours of training does it typically take to earn a MEI?
Probably about 15, depending. Maybe less.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoseUpAttitude View Post
Knowing what I've spent to get to 100TT and thinking how much more 100+hr of ME time would cost, it seems so daunting at this point.

How many hours of training does it typically take to earn a MEI?
It really depends on what your experience level is when you go to get it. If you just have the minimum of 15 hours PIC, it may take you 15 or more hours. If you happen to be very multi current, very instructor current, and very prepared for the oral part, you can do it fast. I did my MEI in 4.6, which included the checkride, but I already had 140 hours of multi, 50 of which was in the 60 days before I did the training, I had over 1500 hours total time, and 1000 or so dual given, and had been studying and preparing for the ground portion for a couple of months. A guy I work with did it in less than 3 hours, same kind of scenario, but about 700 hours multi time. The average I have heard of is about 8 to 12, depending on how prepared you are before you start.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
"Uppity"? What the hell are you talking about?

Short sighted? Where did you build your time? The military?

In the CFI world it's very easy to get into the ASEL groove and keep building time. I have seen guys with 2500 TT and 10 ME...they are the king of ASEL, usually 141 Chiefs or check airmen. But it doesn't do them any good...they all have to start over somewhere else to get their ME time up.

I'm trying to emphasize that entry-level CFI's should have a plan to get their ME time. If their current job won't provide it, they need to be looking for one that will. This is the hardest part of getting from CFI to 121. It's easy to fool yourself and not worry about the future if you are building ASEL time but it's in your best interest to focus on the real meat of the problem early on.
"Uppity" = I'm better than that for no apparent reason...

And I earned my experience in a a right seat of a 1900 that I got to fly with 10 ME hours prior to getting hired and then quit that job and got hired into a 207 before I got to where I am now, built plenty of ASEL time, if there was "no reason" to do it I guess I'd still be a 1900 FO instead of a 727 FE (the PIC time and remote ops experience is what pushed me up the list). I'm also guessing these 141 chiefs with 10 ME are chiefs of places with no multi airplane. Everyone I know on the other hand has always come up with a way to get multi time while remembering that there are good reasons to fly ASEL, unlike your statement of saying there's no reason to fly SEL unless there's a pot of gold at the end.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
"Uppity" = I'm better than that for no apparent reason...

And I earned my experience in a a right seat of a 1900 that I got to fly with 10 ME hours prior to getting hired and then quit that job and got hired into a 207 before I got to where I am now, built plenty of ASEL time, if there was "no reason" to do it I guess I'd still be a 1900 FO instead of a 727 FE (the PIC time and remote ops experience is what pushed me up the list). I'm also guessing these 141 chiefs with 10 ME are chiefs of places with no multi airplane. Everyone I know on the other hand has always come up with a way to get multi time while remembering that there are good reasons to fly ASEL, unlike your statement of saying there's no reason to fly SEL unless there's a pot of gold at the end.
Dude, you are out to lunch. Do you have some kind of esteem complex? Nobody is saying anyone is better than anyone else, we are talking about career paths and how to get from point A to point B. If you already got to point B it doesn't really matter how you did it.

But either you got lucky or it was a long time ago...nobody is going to get a turbine ME job with 10 hours ME in the conceivable future.

OK, so I'll modify my advice: Try to make sure your ASEL job will lead you to some ME time, or if you prefer, just be really lucky like aviatorhi
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Who sold you that line of BS?
Love when people eat their own words
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