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Old 10-15-2011, 06:50 AM
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Where are you flying? Open fields or crowded houses? Flatland or mountains?

Very few exceptions I can think of issuing a go around, mainly LLWS. Even then, get it on the ground and if there is some damage to the plane, let the insurance company write a check. No sense in trying to 'save' a crippled underpowered plane if the trucks are ready to roll.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:36 AM
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Hey Guys,

On a single engine approach in a Piper Seminole. If you had to do a go around and full flaps and gear were down. Airplane was at max gross weight on a standard day. What would you retract first and why?

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Dude, There is no such thing as a go around in a light twin. This includes the PA-44. When you lose a engine on a light twin your losing around 80% of your power, there is no way you are going back up whether your at MAX Gross or not. Do some research people that have tried single engine go arounds in light twins, have either ended up seriously injured who are unable to ever fly again or worse. If you lose an engine on approach you put it down on the taxiway on the grass just get it on the ground.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:37 AM
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If you retract all of your flaps at once (assuming they were full), your little butt is gonna fall out of the sky pretty fast.

Agree with a few of the others...follow the checklist, but generally: mixtures/props/throttles, flaps to intermediate setting, positive rate gear up, as speed and altitude increase, flaps up in climb...of course, this all assumes that you WILL climb. Consult your single-engine climb chart.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:39 AM
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If you are a student and your instructor is actually teaching the practice of a Single Engine Go Around in a light twin. I suggest you find a new instructor ASAP.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:44 AM
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If you are a student and your instructor is actually teaching the practice of a Single Engine Go Around in a light twin. I suggest you find a new instructor ASAP.
In a Seminole I would agree, but I've done probably a hundred go-arounds during training in a C310, a "light twin". It will do them fine. Not every case is the same.
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Originally Posted by hc0fitted View Post
If you are a student and your instructor is actually teaching the practice of a Single Engine Go Around in a light twin. I suggest you find a new instructor ASAP.
Agreed. I did multi training in a Baron, with a fair amount of power, and we didn't do them. I was taught that it would be better to hit a deer or go off the side of the runway than to try to go around once you've selected full flaps...
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:52 AM
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For all you saying to find a new CFI, perhaps the OP is asking because they are training for the ATP. An actual or (preferred) simulated single engine go around is required as per the PTS. I agree, SE go around is a very rare decision due to the hazards, but required for the practical!

Also, I agree with the advice: use full flaps ONLY when landing is assured. At that point, you aren't going around for anything. But up until you decide to go full flaps, the go around I would execute is mixture, props, throttles, flaps up, positive rate-gear up.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:55 AM
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In a Seminole I would agree, but I've done probably a hundred go-arounds during training in a C310, a "light twin". It will do them fine. Not every case is the same.
310, aztec, baron maybe different story, but that depends on how well you know the airplane.

When I say light twin I'm thinking 180 a side.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:32 AM
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Probably the best piece of knowledge I ever got about flying a light twin is, if it is certificated for a GW of 6,000lbs or less, and a Vso of 61 knots or less, it doesn't have to demonstrate a climb single engine for certification.
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Originally Posted by pokey9554 View Post
Probably the best piece of knowledge I ever got about flying a light twin is, if it is certificated for a GW of 6,000lbs or less, and a Vso of 61 knots or less, it doesn't have to demonstrate a climb single engine for certification.
It has to demonstrate a single engine climb rate. However, that number does not have to be positive. A rate just has to be provided. If my memory serves me correct.
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