Search
Notices
Flight Schools and Training Ratings, building hours, airmanship, CFI topics

Im going to ATP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-30-2012, 10:38 AM
  #31  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 4
Default

Originally Posted by CityWok View Post
Could you please shed some light? I can't seem to access the PM function yet as I just recently joined the forums.

Cheers
oh, you can email me with any question. [email protected]
crj4life is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 10:49 AM
  #32  
Super Moderator
 
Diver Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Tiki bar
Posts: 2,633
Default

Originally Posted by TylerbPilot11 View Post
Okay Thanks for the advice, I love flying and have always to be an airline pilot. What do you think the hiring is going to be looking like in the next year or two?
Most of the guys you see who are positive about this career on here are still new or are Military/Corporate, etc. I'm halfway through my 20's and have been furloughed twice already. Absolutely make sure you have a backup plan/career/degree when the rug gets pulled out from under you. I would advise you do something else career wise, but you may have to get in and experience it before you realize what I'm saying.

As far as long term hiring goes (next 2 years), I think you'll see some regional hiring, not anywhere close like it was in '07, but if you have a thousand or so hours and 100ME, there should be a few jobs around.

I think major hiring will be very stagnant over the next year or two. Lots of consolidation going on, American/United still have thousands out of furlough. The economy is not recovering very quickly so I think you're going to see some majors "furlough from the top" as retirements kick in, which basically means absorbing the attrition as it comes. Best case from what I can see is basically no measurable hiring at the majors for the next 1-3 years, maybe more.
Diver Driver is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 11:11 AM
  #33  
Gets Weekends Off
 
l1011's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 254
Default

Originally Posted by DirectTo View Post
Hopefully it's the hangover talking...because attitudes like this bring the entire career down.

Pay-for-training, taking FO jobs for just the flight time, $20/hr FOs at part 121 carriers - all branched in one way or another from that statement.
Dido!

This life will never change for the better if we have these types of attitudes around.

To the original poster doing a fast track is not doing you any favors. The GA world has a lot of fun flying if you search it out and take the time to enjoy it, plus it makes you a much more well rounded pilot. I can say for certain my Ga flying was more fun and rewarding than any flying I have done since going to the airlines.

No I was not a CFI, I built my time towing gliders in tailwheels and doing ferry trips all across North america. In addition I made better money than I do now and was able to fly a ton of different airplanes. If I did not need a job with paid health insurance I would probably still be doing the GA gigs.
l1011 is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 11:17 AM
  #34  
Super Moderator
 
usmc-sgt's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,945
Default

Originally Posted by jerjon7 View Post
not sure why everybody is so negative about this and that about the pilot career, i honestly don't care how much i make, as long as i am flying, i graduated college 8 years ago and have did the corporate(non-flying) waited tables, bartended....etc and nothing makes me happier than flying, i have a wet commercial and about to get my CFI's and couldn't be happier, i went to another flight school that offered flight training in multi's in a somewhat accelerated environment, i was completely happy with my training and wouldn suggest it, and significantly cheper than ATP, PM me if you want more info
You and I are very similar. I also do not care what I fly as long as I am making good money......oh, wait.
usmc-sgt is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:05 PM
  #35  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: NA
Posts: 110
Default

I did catch ATP not being completely honest a few times. They did not deliver on a promise. Don't agree to pay them a deposit of any kind. Watch out.
hesitant is offline  
Old 02-01-2012, 05:13 AM
  #36  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Lav EMB-145
Posts: 51
Default Smart your doing research

So here how it goes at ATP being that I used to be a CFI there. I did not do all my ratings there but I wish I would have. Either these guys hate the airlines they are at(I know a ton of guys at who even at UPS or FedEx who cry about their job and how crappy it is) or just hate ATP(which there are a lot of those). ATP doesn't steal your money. I know I worked there. Every instructor I know at ATP works their butts off to make sure you don't have to buy extra time. Most of the guys here have loans and feel your pain. I went to a four year college and did the majority of my flying there. I hated how slow it took. Yes the Career Pilot Program is intense, yes it goes fast which means you cant be partying you have to take it seriously its preparing you for the airlines.
You do get to fly around the country and see it while being a student there. They put you in hotels and pay for it all. It's fun and your going to meet a lot of people. This is just like any other flight school except they go faster than everyone else because your doing it everyday. Working at ATP wasn't bad at all. Sure some places pay more but, they don't have as many students as you will have at ATP. They wont give you discounted housing at a location you teach at with all utilities included. They wont be able to give you the multi time you want. You will also be able to get the Regional Jet course discounted and sometimes for free. Yes its not that fancy but it allows you to get hired at way less minimums than normally.I was very skeptical about ATP before I went there. Until i talked with over 30 guys working at current airlines who taught there or did some rating there and they said it was great and recommended it.
When the weather wasn't crap I flew about 6-8 hours a day every day. I gave a lot of ground too that I didn't get paid for. I wasn't doing it for the money. Nor are any other CFI's. I would be more than happy to talk about any questions you have. Sent me a message and I will respond as soon as I can.
atdhockey is offline  
Old 02-02-2012, 09:36 AM
  #37  
On Reserve
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: Left seat BE76
Posts: 43
Default

Hey can you send me a message, I tried to send you a message but Idk if you have enough posts or something to let me send one to you. I would like to ask you some questions about it.
TylerbPilot11 is offline  
Old 07-21-2012, 04:03 PM
  #38  
Gets Weekends Off
 
gcpilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 131
Default

Originally Posted by jerjon7 View Post
not sure why everybody is so negative about this and that about the pilot career, i honestly don't care how much i make, as long as i am flying, i graduated college 8 years ago and have did the corporate(non-flying) waited tables, bartended....etc and nothing makes me happier than flying, i have a wet commercial and about to get my CFI's and couldn't be happier, i went to another flight school that offered flight training in multi's in a somewhat accelerated environment, i was completely happy with my training and wouldn suggest it, and significantly cheper than ATP, PM me if you want more info
why not share the information with everyone? we all could benefit
gcpilot is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jdr7225
Flight Schools and Training
22
09-13-2011 08:29 AM
SYdude
Flight Schools and Training
16
03-15-2010 12:46 AM
ReasonableMan
Major
77
08-10-2009 07:50 PM
redbaron
Career Questions
9
03-06-2008 11:58 AM
Atrain77
Flight Schools and Training
10
02-09-2006 02:11 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices