Im going to ATP
#31
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#32
As far as long term hiring goes (next 2 years), I think you'll see some regional hiring, not anywhere close like it was in '07, but if you have a thousand or so hours and 100ME, there should be a few jobs around.
I think major hiring will be very stagnant over the next year or two. Lots of consolidation going on, American/United still have thousands out of furlough. The economy is not recovering very quickly so I think you're going to see some majors "furlough from the top" as retirements kick in, which basically means absorbing the attrition as it comes. Best case from what I can see is basically no measurable hiring at the majors for the next 1-3 years, maybe more.
#33
This life will never change for the better if we have these types of attitudes around.
To the original poster doing a fast track is not doing you any favors. The GA world has a lot of fun flying if you search it out and take the time to enjoy it, plus it makes you a much more well rounded pilot. I can say for certain my Ga flying was more fun and rewarding than any flying I have done since going to the airlines.
No I was not a CFI, I built my time towing gliders in tailwheels and doing ferry trips all across North america. In addition I made better money than I do now and was able to fly a ton of different airplanes. If I did not need a job with paid health insurance I would probably still be doing the GA gigs.
#34
not sure why everybody is so negative about this and that about the pilot career, i honestly don't care how much i make, as long as i am flying, i graduated college 8 years ago and have did the corporate(non-flying) waited tables, bartended....etc and nothing makes me happier than flying, i have a wet commercial and about to get my CFI's and couldn't be happier, i went to another flight school that offered flight training in multi's in a somewhat accelerated environment, i was completely happy with my training and wouldn suggest it, and significantly cheper than ATP, PM me if you want more info
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So here how it goes at ATP being that I used to be a CFI there. I did not do all my ratings there but I wish I would have. Either these guys hate the airlines they are at(I know a ton of guys at who even at UPS or FedEx who cry about their job and how crappy it is) or just hate ATP(which there are a lot of those). ATP doesn't steal your money. I know I worked there. Every instructor I know at ATP works their butts off to make sure you don't have to buy extra time. Most of the guys here have loans and feel your pain. I went to a four year college and did the majority of my flying there. I hated how slow it took. Yes the Career Pilot Program is intense, yes it goes fast which means you cant be partying you have to take it seriously its preparing you for the airlines.
You do get to fly around the country and see it while being a student there. They put you in hotels and pay for it all. It's fun and your going to meet a lot of people. This is just like any other flight school except they go faster than everyone else because your doing it everyday. Working at ATP wasn't bad at all. Sure some places pay more but, they don't have as many students as you will have at ATP. They wont give you discounted housing at a location you teach at with all utilities included. They wont be able to give you the multi time you want. You will also be able to get the Regional Jet course discounted and sometimes for free. Yes its not that fancy but it allows you to get hired at way less minimums than normally.I was very skeptical about ATP before I went there. Until i talked with over 30 guys working at current airlines who taught there or did some rating there and they said it was great and recommended it.
When the weather wasn't crap I flew about 6-8 hours a day every day. I gave a lot of ground too that I didn't get paid for. I wasn't doing it for the money. Nor are any other CFI's. I would be more than happy to talk about any questions you have. Sent me a message and I will respond as soon as I can.
You do get to fly around the country and see it while being a student there. They put you in hotels and pay for it all. It's fun and your going to meet a lot of people. This is just like any other flight school except they go faster than everyone else because your doing it everyday. Working at ATP wasn't bad at all. Sure some places pay more but, they don't have as many students as you will have at ATP. They wont give you discounted housing at a location you teach at with all utilities included. They wont be able to give you the multi time you want. You will also be able to get the Regional Jet course discounted and sometimes for free. Yes its not that fancy but it allows you to get hired at way less minimums than normally.I was very skeptical about ATP before I went there. Until i talked with over 30 guys working at current airlines who taught there or did some rating there and they said it was great and recommended it.
When the weather wasn't crap I flew about 6-8 hours a day every day. I gave a lot of ground too that I didn't get paid for. I wasn't doing it for the money. Nor are any other CFI's. I would be more than happy to talk about any questions you have. Sent me a message and I will respond as soon as I can.
#38
not sure why everybody is so negative about this and that about the pilot career, i honestly don't care how much i make, as long as i am flying, i graduated college 8 years ago and have did the corporate(non-flying) waited tables, bartended....etc and nothing makes me happier than flying, i have a wet commercial and about to get my CFI's and couldn't be happier, i went to another flight school that offered flight training in multi's in a somewhat accelerated environment, i was completely happy with my training and wouldn suggest it, and significantly cheper than ATP, PM me if you want more info
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