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agrinham 01-26-2012 02:34 PM

Part 61 or 141?
 
Hey how is everyone doing tonight?

First forum post here.

I am 19, sophomore in college (Flight Training major), and in the MA National Guard. Aspiring to be an officer, in the Aviation field.


I currently attend a Part 141 school and have my PPL as well as instrument rating and I am in commercial ground school, starting the flight soon.

My ultimate question is: do airliners care whether you acquired your ratings 141 or 61? I am thinking about switching concentrations to aviation management while going part 61 for the rest of my training.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Flyhayes 01-26-2012 02:56 PM

Let me answer your question with another question.
Does it say part 141 on your Private Pilot Certificate?

agrinham 01-26-2012 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 1123698)
Let me answer your question with another question.
Does it say part 141 on your Private Pilot Certificate?



very good point.

part 141 just seems to save me some money i guess. especially when it comes to commercial

Thedude 01-26-2012 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by agrinham (Post 1123700)
very good point.

part 141 just seems to save me some money i guess. especially when it comes to commercial

Not always.
If you are considering a big 141 school vs. a 91 mom&pop operation, 9 times out of 10 times the mom&pop would be cheaper and usually more customer service oriented.

agrinham 01-26-2012 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1123702)
Not always.
If you are considering a big 141 school vs. a 91 mom&pop operation, 9 times out of 10 times the mom&pop would be cheaper and usually more customer service oriented.



but the 141 190 hours for commercial vs the 250 for 61 is a good chunk of change. but then again, id have to build the time some other way.

Flyhayes 01-26-2012 03:18 PM

Sure you might have your Commercial at only 190 hours, but nobody will ever hire you with so few hours. Besides, The hours you get quoted by flight schools during training are usually half truths. They quote you the minimum hours you need according to the FAA to take your flight tests. Before any instructor can sign you off to take your flight test you need to demonstrate that you can handle the aircraft to practical test standards. This can be quite a few more flight hours more than what the FAA minimum required hours are for each course. As an example the FAA requires 40 hours of flight (part 61 training) before you are eligible for your Private Pilot Check Ride. However the average student pilot isn't ready to take the test until close to 70 hours.

agrinham 01-26-2012 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 1123719)
Sure you might have your Commercial at only 190 hours, but nobody will ever hire you with so few hours. Besides, The hours you get quoted by flight schools during training are usually half truths. They quote you the minimum hours you need according to the FAA to take your flight tests. Before any instructor can sign you off to take your flight test you need to demonstrate that you can handle the aircraft to practical test standards. This can be quite a few more flight hours more than what the FAA minimum required hours are for each course. As an example the FAA requires 40 hours of flight (part 61 training) before you are eligible for your Private Pilot Check Ride. However the average student pilot isn't ready to take the test until close to 70 hours.


i know that. i am at about 90 hours with private and instrument but thats also with 10 hours of renting on my own. stage 1 of commercial for my 141 school is a time building solo XC. ill be pretty on par as far as the hours go.

Flyhayes 01-26-2012 03:24 PM

The Dude is right, in the long run you are more likely to save money at a mom and pop school. When comparing different flight schools start by simply comparing the schools by their hourly rates.

USMCFLYR 01-26-2012 03:34 PM

Personally I liked the structure I found in P141 training. It was more conducive to my way of learning; but I agree that it can be more expensive and the mins quoted for pricing are as much about marketing as they are about regulations. Most companies that are the usual targets for hiring don't seem to care where you got your training from unless it was paid for by Uncle Sam.

USMCFLYR

agrinham 01-26-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1123728)
Personally I liked the structure I found in P141 training. It was more conducive to my way of learning; but I agree that it can be more expensive and the mins quoted for pricing are as much about marketing as they are about regulations. Most companies that are the usual targets for hiring don't seem to care where you got your training from unless it was paid for by Uncle Sam.

USMCFLYR

In 2 years when I commission (I am a contracted ROTC Cadet, but was enlisted for a year) I plan on branching aviation and going to the lovely Ft. Rucker for some quality rotor training. I hope the Army then asks me to jump in a fixed wing for them.


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