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normajean22 02-03-2012 06:47 AM

FOI failures
 
Not sure if this goes here or not but i have heard that a lot of people have been failing the Fundamentals of Instruction written exam. I was wondering if anybody knows if this will calm down any time soon as i plan to take the test in the next few months. Thanks for your help.

Flyhayes 02-03-2012 07:05 AM

Why would anyone ever fail a knowledge test? With all the knowledge test preps out there providing you with all the Q&A before you take the test, failing should be unheard of.

normajean22 02-03-2012 07:11 AM

FAA Knowledge Test Failures Skyrocket | Flying Magazine | The World

USMCFLYR 02-03-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 1128466)
Why would anyone ever fail a knowledge test? With all the knowledge test preps out there providing you with all the Q&A before you take the test, failing should be unheard of.

Because the FAA changed the test questions and the gouge sites hadn't caught up yet.

See old thread:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...questions.html

USMCFLYR

normajean22 02-03-2012 07:40 AM

Thanks for the link USMC. Does this mean they have stopped this and there are not as many failures?

PearlPilot 02-03-2012 07:48 AM

I took the FOI test in November and got a 78%. The question bank had changed prior to I took the test. Here is what I did and I would suggest you do to prepare for the test.

1. Read the Aviation Instructor's Handbook and highlight everything you think is important. Re-read it and highlight more. Re-read it :)
2. Get a copy of either ASA or Gleim written test prep for the FOI and keep taking practice tests. Although the question bank is different, it helped me nevertheless.
3. Re-read the Aviation Instructor's Handbook.
4. Take a few tests on exams4pilots.org.

Good luck!!

Flyhayes 02-03-2012 08:03 AM

And I'm back in the loop!
Thanks guys :D

Javok 02-03-2012 08:26 AM

I took it a couple months ago and passed it. Got 80%. I studied the gleim guide and the Dauntless prep on the iPad. most of the stuff I studied was on topic but the way the FAA words some of the questions is where they got me.

I second what was said about the instructor handbook though.

Edit: post #1 woot

SkyKing466 02-03-2012 10:15 AM

www.sheppardair.com - best out there!

Website looks really old but the database is continually updated. Passed my FOI, CFI-A, and CFI-I all with over a 90% back in August. Studied about 4 days for each. I think the package price is something like $100. Well worth it. Good luck!

Cubdriver 02-03-2012 11:16 AM

I took that test a few years ago and got 98 on it, which says more about how easy it was than how smart I am. I figured the one I missed was the experimental question. :) They probably should have made it harder as they did, it was kind of a joke before. You could just memorize the study guide.

USMCFLYR 02-03-2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1128629)
I took that test a few years ago and got 98 on it, which says more about how easy it was than how smart I am. I figured the one I missed was the experimental question. :) They probably should have made it harder as they did, it was kind of a joke before. You could just memorize the study guide.

Isn't that what all studying requires :)
Study guides are helpful.
They *should* target your efforts.

USMCFLYR

Cubdriver 02-03-2012 11:42 AM

Since all the FAA written exams are drawn from known test banks with less than a thousand questions each, anyone can ace any exam simply by working about 50 questions a day for 3 weeks. I require my students to make 85 or more on their exams, because I know that it is just a matter of how long they studied not how smart they are. If they act confused by a subject matter, they simply have not been putting the time in.

themagicman00 02-03-2012 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by SkyKing466 (Post 1128594)
www.sheppardair.com - best out there!

Website looks really old but the database is continually updated. Passed my FOI, CFI-A, and CFI-I all with over a 90% back in August. Studied about 4 days for each. I think the package price is something like $100. Well worth it. Good luck!

To add to this post, I took my ATP and got a 88 with 8hrs of studying. 24hr support and money back guaranteed if you don't get a 90%

thegoblin 05-25-2012 08:02 AM

Wow. I really wish I looked into this before just taking my FOI test....

Took the test today and scored a 68%. I would say about half the questions I have never seen before. These questions were very poorly worded and were ridiculous honestly...

I bought the Gleim Sport Instructor kit, completed all the online tests scoring in the high 90's. I studied about two weeks in total for the FOI. I mainly studied the outlines and rote learned most of the questions to be honest. I even got a digital sign off for Dr. Irvin Gleim himself saying I'm prepared to take the test --- what a joke.

This gleim kit did not include the instructors handbook so I'm going to pick up that and study some more as suggested

Anyone else have any new gouge regarding the new FOI tests?

Javok 05-25-2012 10:27 AM

I'm sorry to hear that. That test really is rediculous (in that it's much more difficult). If I was to do it all over again id go through Sheppard Air. Haven't tried them myself but hear great things all the time. Other than that, just study some more and try to remember the way the questions were worded so that you'll be better prepared next time. Good luck to you.

Rotor2prop 05-25-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by thegoblin (Post 1197189)
Wow. I really wish I looked into this before just taking my FOI test....

Took the test today and scored a 68%. I would say about half the questions I have never seen before. These questions were very poorly worded and were ridiculous honestly...

I bought the Gleim Sport Instructor kit, completed all the online tests scoring in the high 90's. I studied about two weeks in total for the FOI. I mainly studied the outlines and rote learned most of the questions to be honest. I even got a digital sign off for Dr. Irvin Gleim himself saying I'm prepared to take the test --- what a joke.

This gleim kit did not include the instructors handbook so I'm going to pick up that and study some more as suggested

Anyone else have any new gouge regarding the new FOI tests?


Get Sheppard Air's prep and never look back. Call them now study the weekend and take it next week. Over and done!

thegoblin 05-25-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 1197392)
Get Sheppard Air's prep and never look back. Call them now study the weekend and take it next week. Over and done!

I think I will try it out. Interesting they guarantee they have every question for the FOI, even for the new tests, or your money back.

Thanks for the advice.

thegoblin 06-12-2012 11:24 AM

Passed today with a 100%. I highly recommend Sheppard Air.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

Rotor2prop 06-12-2012 07:54 PM


Passed today with a 100%. I highly recommend Sheppard Air.

Thanks everyone for the advice.
Amazing how good they are with test preps!!

Hawker Driver 06-13-2012 04:54 AM

Yeah, when I took it back in 1985, it was a joke.


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