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Baronav8er 03-17-2012 11:52 AM

Merlin available to build time in SF Bay Area
 
Im looking for some pilots that would like to build time or get introduced to twin turbin time in my Merlin. Share of expenses. I have 1k hours in make so I can run you through the paces. I'm based in the SF Bay Area. I'm not looking to get paid or make any money, just someone that would like to share some fuel expenses.

Mason32 03-17-2012 12:42 PM

So you are on an airline pilot forum looking for a professional to pay you to fly? Do you hire your lawyer or doctor this way too?

Baronav8er 03-17-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1153430)
So you are on an airline pilot forum looking for a professional to pay you to fly? Do you hire your lawyer or doctor this way too?

Did you not read my post? I'm just looking for people that would like to fly for a fuel split. I wish I could have found an opportunity like this when I was trying to build time.

exerauflyboy5 03-17-2012 02:24 PM

???
 
Is this the merlin based at KHWD? At the same hangar with the hiller DC-3?

rickair7777 03-17-2012 02:34 PM

How are you going to split the time? Is it certified for two Pilots?

yimke 03-17-2012 06:34 PM

Merlin II or III?

Baronav8er 03-17-2012 08:15 PM

Hi, no its not based in HWD. It's in Concord. It is a Merlin IIIB.

hi208 03-17-2012 09:19 PM

How are you going to split the time? Is it certified for two Pilots?

The Merlin is certified for both two pilot and single pilot ops. But I think you have a waiver of some sort to fly it single pilot.

yimke 03-17-2012 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by hi208 (Post 1153629)
How are you going to split the time? Is it certified for two Pilots?

The Merlin is certified for both two pilot and single pilot ops. But I think you have a waiver of some sort to fly it single pilot.

TCDS only specifies one crew member required. So as long as it's all part 91, there is no Type rating required (exactly 12,500 lbs). Now for insurance... that's another story.

sparerib11 03-18-2012 12:50 AM

How fast does it go? 280 KTAS? Better?

Thedude 03-18-2012 04:08 AM

A Merlin is kinda expensive time builder.
and
Not the kinda aircraft a low time guy should be operating.

Something sounds fishy here.



Not to mention I have more than 2000 hrs in the SW3/SA-227 and a single pilot type.

sinkrate3278 03-18-2012 08:18 PM

I've never heard of building time in a multi turbine aircraft as big as a Merlin unless it's a pay-to-fly occupat..... Oh I see, Nevermind.

I really don't see how your proposition makes any financial sense. "splitting the cost" on an aircraft with an operating total cost of at least $1000/hr doesn't seem like a logical way to build time. Unless your typing people in the aircraft this sounds pretty fishy, I'm sorry if I'm misreading you.

detpilot 03-18-2012 09:07 PM

He sounds like a private owner/operator looking to defray some fuel costs... still not sure how you could log the time though.

The same thing happens all the time with piston twins and singles (Pilot Share The Ride)

Baronav8er 03-19-2012 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 1154083)
He sounds like a private owner/operator looking to defray some fuel costs... still not sure how you could log the time though.

The same thing happens all the time with piston twins and singles (Pilot Share The Ride)

Exactly. I am an owner operator. Thought maybe someone would enjoy flying it with me. I didn't realize I'd get so much critisism. There is nothing fishy. There is no type rating needed.

yimke 03-19-2012 07:35 AM

It doesn't need a type. I agree though, I don't see the point. Most employers look down on time splitting Multi PIC with one person with the hood on. Especially turbine PIC.

Cruz5350 03-19-2012 09:43 AM

Maybe he just likes to fly. If I had money and time to boot and owned a King Air or Cheyenne I would totally let people come along and fly it. Heck if I had enough money I wouldn't even split the fuel.

Cruz5350 03-19-2012 09:44 AM

Props to someone willing to help new guys get some turbine experience whether they log it not it's still good experience.

Ray Blaszak 03-19-2012 03:25 PM

I may not know too much about this subject but how would that be any different than you and a buddy splitting a cost of a 172? I use to do that all the time. He flew one leg (logged all PIC time) and I flew the other leg. When we were "passengers" we helped with the radio, checklists, charts, etc. So how would him letting you fly his plane be any different?

Baronav8er 03-19-2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Blaszak (Post 1154474)
I may not know too much about this subject but how would that be any different than you and a buddy splitting a cost of a 172? I use to do that all the time. He flew one leg (logged all PIC time) and I flew the other leg. When we were "passengers" we helped with the radio, checklists, charts, etc. So how would him letting you fly his plane be any different?


Yah! That's what I'm thinking. Someone could fly with me and we could trade off PIC time. I have no interest in building any more time,I just want to keep the bird flying as much as possible. I of course would be very involved to keep it safe.

Well anyway, I know that when I was first moving up it seemed very difficult to get that initial turbine time that is so important. I was just being generous.

Cruz5350 03-19-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Baronav8er (Post 1154531)
Yah! That's what I'm thinking. Someone could fly with me and we could trade off PIC time. I have no interest in building any more time,I just want to keep the bird flying as much as possible. I of course would be very involved to keep it safe.

Well anyway, I know that when I was first moving up it seemed very difficult to get that initial turbine time that is so important. I was just being generous.

2 years ago I'd be all over this. Wish it was there when I was first starting off. Kudos to you being so generous with your plane.

Golden Bear 03-19-2012 06:27 PM

You seemed much less sure of the legality of what you are doing when you asked the question a few months ago:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/av...ml#post1075108

csucbrown 03-20-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1154245)
It doesn't need a type. I agree though, I don't see the point. Most employers look down on time splitting Multi PIC with one person with the hood on. Especially turbine PIC.


Why is this the case? A buddy and I were thinking about splitting Seneca/Seminole time..not worth it?


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