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Phxdvt17 11-07-2012 10:49 AM

Takeoff briefing for multi-engine aircraft
 
I'm working on my CMEL and MEI right now and every time before engine start when I give my passenger briefing I get stumped. As a CFII with dual given experience I'm comfortable with a passenger briefing in most cessna and piper aircraft. Though in the Seminole (PA-44) I get continually get stumped (it might just be the nerves of adding an extra engine). Does anyone have a good way to remember items on a passenger briefing? Maybe an acronym?

Thanks for the help!

Ottopilot 11-07-2012 10:53 AM

A checklist works. That's what I use.

Phxdvt17 11-07-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1288933)
A checklist works. That's what I use.

That's what I'm in the process of creating. I was just looking to see if there were some standard briefing points.

Cbusbased 11-07-2012 11:00 AM

Just stick with the basics and important info: how to un/buckle seatbelts, emergency exits, no smoking, what to expect if theres an engine fire, fail, or abnormality, and inform them if there will be any adverse weather/smooth ride, etc...

Twin Wasp 11-07-2012 11:33 AM

What's the difference between SEL/MEL? PAX don't care and the regs don't change. Seat belt, door, don't smoke, don't bother me when I'm busy (unless it's another plane getting really big really fast.)

pilot0987 11-07-2012 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 1288958)
don't bother me when I'm busy (unless it's another plane getting really big really fast.)

I like this, maybe ill use it next time.

bcrosier 11-07-2012 01:09 PM

"Hey y'all - watch this!"

Sorry, couldn't resist! I'll go with the above posters - for pax, it seems to me the briefing should be the same SEL or MEL: Seat belt use, normal & emergency exits, basic emergency procedures, propeller safety, high workload times/non-pertinent conversation, traffic awareness & spotting assistance, weather considerations, ect.

Sorry, no mnemonic.

kevmor 11-07-2012 01:56 PM

Part of the takeoff briefing should include what you're going to do if an engine fails (before rotation, before gear-up, after gear-up) as it may change depending on your runway. If the passenger is a pilot (or familiar), they can help with a checklist if they know what's going to happen.

chrisreedrules 11-07-2012 04:01 PM

Here is what I use:

"This is going to be a ________ takeoff from runway ________. We will rotate at ______ and climb out at _______ until 1,000 AGL. Any engine abnormalities or loss of directional control before rotation and I will bring the throttles to idle and apply max breaking to stop the aircraft. Engine failure after rotation with usable runway I will bring the throttles to idle and land on the remaining usable runway. Engine failure after rotation with no remaining usable runway I will maintain directional control and climb straight ahead. As soon as possible I will identify, verify, fix or feather.

Planespotta 11-07-2012 05:03 PM

Wedge a dollar bill between the avionics and offer it to anyone who can spot another airplane before you do.


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