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smores 01-09-2013 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk87 (Post 1326345)
What's your concerns other than the low salary? Can your wife support you financially for the first years?

Squawk87, I wish she could but unfortunately her income wouldn't be able to pay for the house and all our bills! Perhaps later down the road she could, but not right now ...

JamesNoBrakes 01-09-2013 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by smores (Post 1326588)
JamesNoBrakes, you are exactly right! Personally, I just love being able to fly when I want and to have control of the cockpit. You made a good point though because I don't necessarily NEED to be an "airline pilot". I guess it is somewhat assumed that all individual need to become airline pilots in order to support a family given the low salaries; which is probably the case if that is ALL your going to do.

I am definitely considering just gaining my PPL and Instrument just to go up and enjoy ... and still have a full time job elsewhere.

Can you imagine a better adventure than building and flying your own plane, like an RV-7 or something with some performance and capability? It's fairly economical (less than 100K vs. 400+K for similar performance with a new production aircraft)?

The best part about this is that if you choose the right career path, you can still be neck-deep in aviation and doing fun and interesting stuff. Maybe working in aviation insurance, aviation financing, aviation safety, aviation regulation, aviation and aerospace engineering, aviation and aerospace production, aviation and aerospace testing, aviation maintenance, etc. If not, you can STILL enjoy and be deep-in flying, on the weekends, getting type ratings for fun, instructing, advanced instruction, etc.

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 05:54 AM

Do what you love?
 
Flying, drinking, smoking and drugs are all fun but it does not mean that we should do them. Join a support group, resist the urge and in time those evil thoughts will fade. :)

Skyhigh

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 06:06 AM

Cruel
 
The cruelest thing I have seen is when the lust for aviation abates too late leaving the afflicted alive, well, too old to make a change and having to deal with the realization that they have wasted their lives.

Skyhigh

JohnBurke 01-09-2013 06:14 AM


The cruelest thing I have seen is when the lust for aviation abates too late leaving the afflicted alive, well, too old to make a change and having to deal with the realization that they have wasted their lives.
You must be speaking of yourself.

There are none so blind as those who shall not see, and none nearly so pathetic as those who blame that refusal to see on the industry or the world at large.

51driver 01-09-2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 1326663)
The cruelest thing I have seen is when the lust for aviation abates too late leaving the afflicted alive, well, too old to make a change and having to deal with the realization that they have wasted their lives.

Skyhigh

Skyhigh your problem is you never made it! I get tired of hearing your posts that are negative. I fly for a 121 operation upgraded in less than 2 years! Problem is people don't realize there are "other 121 ops" that are not pax ops! Oh and btw I was hired in 2010, how you like that Skyhigh?

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 06:34 AM

Making it is a relative term
 

Originally Posted by 51driver (Post 1326683)
Skyhigh your problem is you never made it! I get tired of hearing your posts that are negative. I fly for a 121 operation upgraded in less than 2 years! Problem is people don't realize there are "other 121 ops" that are not pax ops! Oh and btw I was hired in 2010, how you like that Skyhigh?

I made it far enough. I could have continued on like my peers to enjoy more lay offs and furloughs. Plenty of my friends upgraded and were then laid off again. Several are onto their fifth job since 9-11. A true success story does not really exist anymore. The best we can hope for is that things will be good for a while.

Skyhigh

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 06:37 AM

Risk
 

Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 1326668)
You must be speaking of yourself.

There are none so blind as those who shall not see, and none nearly so pathetic as those who blame that refusal to see on the industry or the world at large.

John,

A sat to the right of plenty of old men who came to the realization long ago that they had wasted their lives. Not pretty. Some however are lucky enough to be able to perpetuate the self delusion.

I sincerely hope that everyone here is happy but wish to warn of the consequences.

Skyhigh

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 06:59 AM

The good news
 
The good news is if you want to be in the left seat of a 737 you most likely can have it. In trade however aviation usually demands your wife, kids, home, friends, family, hobbies, health and financial security.

Imagine waking up from the trance in your late 50's with only a rusty old corvette and rented two bedroom apartment to show for you efforts as an airline pilot. It happens all the time.

Skyhigh

SkyHigh 01-09-2013 07:03 AM

Success and happiness
 
Pilots often are happy when they go to work. The key however is to be happy to be going home. Build a life not a career. Resit the urge.

Skyhigh


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