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CFIGUY22 01-14-2013 04:04 PM

Can I be violated?
 
has a CFI ever been Violated for a paperwork issue?

UnderOveur 01-14-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1330143)

Can I be violated?

Oh how lucky you are these forums are moderated! :rolleyes:

UnderOveur 01-14-2013 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1330143)
has a CFI ever been Violated for a paperwork issue?

What do you think you did wrong? Let's start there.

Duckdude 01-14-2013 05:03 PM

Our FSDO made a CFI do a 709 ride for repeatedly sending CFI applicants to their checkrides with improper endorsements. The inspector telling me about the incident said the CFI was counseled first, repeated the errors again, and then was given the 709 ride.

cws1028 01-14-2013 05:21 PM

At my school, we had a CFI canned for endorsing a few students a few lessons before the end of the 141 syllabus so he could go on vacation out of the country. I don't know if the FAA ever did get involved, but for something as blatant as this and it being a violation of 141, he was fired.

rickair7777 01-14-2013 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1330143)
has a CFI ever been Violated for a paperwork issue?


Yes. But most likely they will talk to you first, maybe give you a 709 if it's a gross departure.

This assumes honest mistakes, not falsification...in the latter case, they'll probably shred all of your tickets.

cws1028 01-14-2013 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by UnderOveur (Post 1330178)
What do you think you did wrong? Let's start there.

Assuming it has to do with what he posted in the other forum.


So has anybody ever heard anything about a CFI getting a violation for making a paperwork error on an IACRA? as in signing it too early for a retest?
On another note what are FAA inspectors looking for when they ask to review your logbooks and Instructor records?
Any response is appreciated.

I Need Hours 01-16-2013 07:18 PM

They can throw a “falsification” on any paperwork; just like they can throw “careless and reckless” on anything.

flyflieg 01-21-2013 08:24 PM

It all depends on what you do wrong.. I would say that most FSDOs would at least try to work with you if it's the first time you mess up some paperwork or anything, but you never want to mess up with the wrong person


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