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Old 01-20-2013, 02:05 PM
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I'm not sure what it is now. Think it is still a fair amount more than a 141 school + 4 years at a cheaper (but still good!) school is.

Baylor has gotten pretty expensive (I go there). If you pay full tuition, it is something like $40,000 per year. Not worth it. Like I said however, you can get nearly half of that covered just by SAT merit scholarship (which is completely automatic if you have a high enough score). However, that is still more than say UNT which I think is in the realm of 16k per year if you are in state. And that is with no scholarships.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BMCflyer View Post
Between the University of North Dakota and Western Michigan University which one would y'all say has a better flight program. Personally i think, and have heard that UND is the best of the best. I'm a freshman in college looking to transfer for fall 2013. Embry-Riddle is way too expensive and all the people i have talked to that have gone there didn't really have anything good to say about the school or its program. I live in Houston and to be honest there aren't a lot of colleges down here that offer a flight program and speaking for tuition and board it would actually be cheaper to go to these schools than Baylor or Letourneau both of which are insanely expensive.
Take a look at the University of Nebraska @ Omaha program. They have placed plenty of past students in good jobs at half the price of UND.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:16 PM
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I think you should also take a look at Purdue University's flight program. After going through the program in 4 years, I have no regrets at all. The school as a whole is great - big campus, good sports, and an active student body. One of the biggest pros is that the airport is right on campus - you don't need to drive 10-20+ miles for your classes. It is also very easy to minor or even double major in something completely unrelated to aviation (for instance, I minored in business management through the Krannert School of Management at Purdue).

Purdue has recently purchased a jet, which has become a course for its students - the Embraer Phenom 100. You have a semester to go through the systems of the plane and a level 6 simulator and the following semester you fly 10 hours in the airplane doing typical pre-type rating maneuvers. I was lucky enough to get some extra hours in the plane because of trips for faculty (Purdue is the only university that allows students to fly their faculty around the country).

If you have any interest and would like to talk about Purdue, feel free to message me.

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TSTC used to be a good deal, what are the prices now? I know the Baylor/TSTC program was crazy expensive but that was because of the Baylor tuition.
Around 60-70k. Compared to some programs that may seem reasonable, but CTC is half the price. And yes, the Baylor program raises expenses significantly.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:21 PM
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i'll try don't know how many posts i need to make though
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UND costs wouldn't be hard to manage and i hear after 1 year you can get in state tuition. It seems like it'd just make school harder though if i majored in something else and did flight school in spare time. I know that after i graduate i'm not going to be making like 40-50k and that its a lot of time and work till you get to the airlines. what are reduced minimums by the way?
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damn 5k thats the cheapest i've heard. the school that's around houston is like 8. I've heard of central texas before and i contemplated going but just seems to far for a two year. I know there's a cc around here in east houston that offers license but can't remember which one and don't know if its any good or not.
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Originally Posted by BMCflyer View Post
UND costs wouldn't be hard to manage and i hear after 1 year you can get in state tuition. It seems like it'd just make school harder though if i majored in something else and did flight school in spare time. I know that after i graduate i'm not going to be making like 40-50k and that its a lot of time and work till you get to the airlines. what are reduced minimums by the way?
I honestly don't believe school would be harder if majoring in something else, or double majoring. It will be more work, but it will 100% be worth it. I am of the opinion through experience that you cannot get into this career without a real back up plan.

Reduced minimums are hiring minimums at a specific company that have been lowered for graduates of a certain program. UND has long partnered with airlines for these. The ATP rule will likely change that however.
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It seems like it'd just make school harder though if i majored in something else and did flight school in spare time.
The most successful people I know are the ones that did this. They got engineering degrees while doing piloting, other degrees, and in the end, they are able to pursue flying on their own terms, be test pilots, flight engineers, have enough money to buy their own plane, etc. The job prospects are usually much brighter, and so on. Their success is due to hard work though. It wasn't easy for me to do a master's degree while I was working full time, but I did it, and it has paid off in spades IMO.

Here's a very important piece of information: many of us were drawn to piloting because we think we can get paid 150K-200K to "just fly", and we'll have a significant period of time off! How cool is that? That sounds like not a lot of work for a big payoff, right? That's not how the world works though. Nothing is free, and you have to pay one way or another. The way you pay with that is the fact that in 10 years, virtually no one has made it to major airlines. A few have, but now that regionals actually do more flights and flying, it's not possible that all those pilots can "move on". So you hope that one day, when you are 40 or 50, you might finally get a shot at the "major airline", maybe by 55 or 60 you move into a "heavy". Those people that make it as lawyers making the big bucks paid their dues by the costs of college and law school, those that did the same becoming doctors did so with their school costs, interning and becoming a resident, those that did becoming business execs did so by going to business school, sometimes having resources to start their own business, or working up for a long time within a specific business. There is no "free lunch" or magic career that will pay off with minimal effort. You put in the hard work now, and you'll never regret it.
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