CAE Oxford Aviation Academy- Phoenix
 

Hey Everyone,

If you're looking for a great flight instructing job, CAE is hiring CFIs into their JAA and FAA program here in Phoenix Arizona. It's a great place to work! Great benefits, awesome aircraft and the pay is great for starting out. PM me for details!

you work there as a CFI livingthedream89?

Yup! It's a great place to work.

Are they still hiring? Their website doesn't show CFI jobs. I've tried to get a job as an EMB instructor, having 1000+ PIC and 2500 tot in it, but didn't have a current CFI. I renewed my CFI/II by adding MEI and would like to do some instructing in the valley.

Is there any advantage to working in their JAA program vs the FAA program?

I thought they flew bonanzas and barons or something.

ALERT!!!!!

This HAS to be a planted message by some higher-up in management at CAE Oxford! This comment could not be further from the truth! I currently work as a CFI/CFII at CAE OXford in Goodyear and it SUCKS! The truth is, they are currently looking for insructors in Phoenix for one telling reason - all their instructors are quitting!!!

Oxford USED TO BE a great place too work, but since CAE bought us out it has gone downhill fast. After the buyout, they fired the upper management at Oxford in Goodyear and since then they have run the place like a North Korean prison camp! The planes there are not great - they are crappy Piper Warriors that are on their last leg and have frequent mechanical issues and we are constantly being lied to by upper-management and treated like second-class citizens. Do not buy what (whoever posted the original post to this thread) is selling! It's all lies. CAE Oxford is the perfect example of why instructors should unionize so they don't get screwed by companies like CAE Oxford. Don't apply to this place if you value your worth! Instead, run as fast as you can in the oposite direction!!

PM me if you have any specific questions and I will be glad to give you more info.

Okay, first I've got to address the idea that I work in management. That's funny. No, I'm certainly not in upper management- I am a CFI in the FAA Program right now. I have been there for two months and it is great. Sure, teaching cadets from other countries can have it's challenges but it is certainly not a, what did he call it? "North Korean Prison camp"- hah! Yeah right!

Second, the reason CAE is hiring instructors is because they are growing and training pilots from all over. By this summer they need at least 40 new instructors in the JAA program. To teach in the JAA program you need 500 TT, 200 dual given and 100 instrument (a combination of simulated, actual, simulator, and sim dual given). The pay is a little better in the JAA side and the students are all Dutch/European who have been speaking English for years (i.e. their ability to speak and understand is much higher).

Let me tell you why I like it there and why I chose CAE. When I was looking for a place to start instructing I looked at ATP and I saw the poor lifestyle of my instructors and decided that with a family that wasn't the place for me. A friend of mine told me about CAE and how the pay was better, there was never a shortage of students and the aircraft were great.

NOW... the other guy who posted said they fired everyone in Goodyear and they are stuck flying crappy warriors. What he didn't mention is that once CAE bought Oxford Academy they also placed the largest order of Archers in Pipers history. The new aircraft arrive next month and guess who gets first pickings of the new aircraft? Yup! The Oxford guys. G1000 and ADSB equipped. Does that sound like CAE is screwing you over? I don't think so.

CAE is a great place to work. You can ask ANYONE who currently works there and they will wholeheartedly recommend it. Like I offered earlier you can PM me if you would like details.

JAA program has better pay, and European students who have spent a year in ground over in Europe. They are very well prepared and some speak English so well you can't tell they are foreigners.

Can you please send the link for the job post

I'm not able to PM yet, but is there an opportunity for a fresh-CFI? No CFII or MEI.

cae oxford
 

im not saying one way or another on this thread. i do live in vero beach and pass the piper factory everyday, and there are brand new warriors on the production line with cae oxford paint on the planes.

Well I'm saying one way on this thread - if you value your self-worth, then stay away from CAE Oxford.

The new planes they purchased from Piper are Archers, not Warriors. BFD. They ordered 22 of them when there are a lot more instructors and the chances of you seeing one of those new plnaes very often are slim to none - it's simple math. You'll probabl end up flying the crappy Warrior II's their going to keep for the junior instructors. If you come to work here to fly a new piston airplane and overlook the crappy way they treat their instructors, then you're nuts.

Again, take from this what you will. Dont say I didn't warn you if you take a job there and are unhappy in two weeks. I just hope you don't uproot your life to go work there. Nuff said.....

I worked at CAE for a 3 and 1/2 years, on the Mesa Campus and I think it is one of the better places to instruct. In fact I am thinking about going back.

I flew to Vero Beach for dinner at CJ's last Saturday and while taxiing for takeoff I saw a bunch of Warriors on the ramp that's on the south side of 11R on taxiway C4 and they were not from Flight Safety . . . they were painted white with blue tails but wasn't able to make out any school markings . . . do you know if they are marshaling them out on the ramp like that before they ship them out?

Are you guys starting to get students from the easyJet programme? It'll be interesting to see if FAA-licensed CFIs can do an ATPL ground school with CAE via distance learning or something while working as an instructor there and then hook up with one of the European airlines once they've logged some instructing hours and gotten the frozen ATPL . . . that would be sweet!

How long ago was that? There have been MANY changes here in the recent past. What are you doing now? Whatever it is (even if it's flipping burgers) it's probably better than coming back. I would definitely do some research before coming back here if I were you. PM me for specifics if you want more info.

Weighing it out
 

I live in Vero Beach as well, and I can confirm that as well. They actually have a brand new Oxford Aviation aircraft on display there as well. As well as many new archers on the ramp. I saw this yesterday passing by FlightSafety.

Another word of advice, never bad mouth a company. If you have problems, put up and shutup or leave and find something else worth your while.But APC isn't a place to complain and moan of a company where it seems as though some have had no problems. When a few out of the bunch are having problems you tend to look like the sore thumb's out the group. My .02 G'day!

Hey there,

CAE really only teaches foreign students so, yes you would be teaching them from the start. Once you have some time instructing, then you can get authorized from EASA to teach european students. Once you get that, you do make more.

I honestly have no idea why people are so negative about CAE. I'm at the Mesa location (KFFZ) and I think it is a great place to work. There's never a shortage of students, you'll fly 60-80 hours a month (I know that's a big range, it just depends on how many students are allocated to you).

The pay is great, and you get two days off a week, paid vacation time and benefits. What else can you ask for? It's a professional place to work and just about every instructor there really wants to be there and enjoys it.

Thanks for that information. I saw on the web that CAE still operates out of Goodyear. Is that a foreign student base as well as Mesa? Would a pilot with over 1500 total have a difficult time getting a job there? Also, is there as training contract? Thanks.

Sorry I don't want to Hijack this thread but can anyone tell me if they have experience as a student with this school? Specifically being an american student. They mentioned that as of yet they have not had any US students...i'm wondering why that is. I am interested in their program and considering moving to phx.

I'm currently at the Goodyear location, and as of a meeting we had this week the Goodyear location should be fully merged with the Mesa Location by the end of Sept. I am a new hire here, (hired post CAE's Oxford takeover)but because I had previous flight instruction experience I was hired directly into the Oxford (European) program. There is a training contract.

If you want more deets PM me.

It seems that you aren't receiving PM's yet. I'll wait a few days and take you up on that. Thanks!!

CAE Oxford Aviation Academy- Phoenix
 

Sorry about that. I need to make a few more posts :)

If anyone has questions about CAE from a student perspective let me know. I am currently attending.

could someone provide information about COOCAE hiring flying instructors?

Thanks

They are hiring, both into the FAA and EASA programs. Best to call HR and send in your resume. If you want some specifics pm me.

How are things there now?