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Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 85335)

"ERAU students are offered the opportunity to learn an enormous amount of knowledge, making them potentially more knowledgeable out of college than most captains at any airline who have a non-aviation degree. I am not exaggerating when I say this"

I went to Riddle. I'll be nice and simply say you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh SNAP! :D

They've got a "discussion board" on their website. It's heavily regulated. This JAM-ERAU character is one disgusting human being. None of my posts would ever make it past the censors.

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gglock08: I've heard that companies don't care where you got your degree, as long as you can fly you can get hired. So it paying 45k a year a possible waste of money if it doesn't get us an advantage/more pay than other pilots?

JAM-ERAU: Pilot jobs can be very competitive. Employers look at many factors when hiring, and they have many qualified candidates from which to choose. Overall, the major airlines do look for pilots with a bachelor's degree as well as superior flight training, so you need that at minimum. They also look for leaders and professionals. You'll want to seek out the schooling that will make you the most attractive to these employers. Another thing that can be very valuable in making you marketable to those employers is internship opportunities that offer you an advantage, they help you to prove yourself to companies before they hire you. Embry-Riddle offers some great opportunities for that. Also, any professional field is made up of a network of people who can help along the way. Embry-Riddle can provide that network, too. The fact that you wrote to us on this board demonstrates that you recognize Embry-Riddle as a leader in this field, employers do, too. The field is demanding and training is costly no matter where you go, if you truly want to fly for a living, it will be worth it.

gglock08: Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to clear up that rumor... thanks :)

Sounds like that board is an extension of their marketing. I wonder if the guy asking the questions and the guy answering them aren't sitting in the same room...

Hey, I'm alumni and a Capt at UPS, wonder if they would let me join?

Only if you made it clear that your ERAU degree is the reason you're a Capt at UPS.

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Anonymous: I've been told by several people who fly for a living that majoring in aerospace studies can be risky if you get grounded from flying for some reason, and that it's a good idea to major in something else and minor in aerospace instead. I want to fly for a major airline such as Delta or American someday and am wondering what I should do for a major to accomplish this. Any help would be great!

JAM-ERAU: People do have different ideas, but if you really want to fly professionally, you should major in the degree program that specializes in flight. That's Aeronautcial Science. The good thing about our program is that you do earn a complete college degree with all the English and math and science that makes one marketable in the working world. Many people combine their aeronautical science degree with a complementary minor that would make them more employable should flight become a problem (like business, safety, communication or meteorology).

"Discussion board" indeed. :mad:

All the knowledge can be found in FAA approved books. I bet you could study for all your written tests at the library and have no issues.

-LAFF

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Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 85335)

I think you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about... or maybe at the time you attended things were different. ERAU tends to change very quickly. Trust me, I have a very good knowledge of what I am talking about.

Or, maybe, you're in the 98% who didn't get their money's worth out of their ERAU degree....

Slice,

I agree with you that there is no substitute for experience. But there is no substitute for studying either. I agree with you that I'd pick the regional captain any day, but that's not what I sad in my post. I said that 1-2% of the ERAU grads who truly got everything they could out of their degrees have an amount of knowledge (book knowledge that is) that is much greater than the vast majority of pilots out there who either don't have a degree or have an non-aviation degree.

Having said that, I find there is a large percentage of recent ERAU graduates (20-30%) who have a TERRIBLE attitude and I would never want to fly with. Those are the ones who think only because they have ERAU written on their resume, everything is owed to them. They are the ones who instead of instructing, buy 500hours of multi turbine time for $25k after they graduate. I have seen plenty of them, trust me. The unfortunate thing is that THEY ALL FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. Even the ones who have a terrible attitude still get hired at even the "good" regionals.
However there ARE some excellent pilots who come out of ERAU, and that's mainly why their reputation in the industry is very good. All the marketing gimmicks may work in attracting high school seniors, but it does not build a nationwide reputation.

BTW, I am referring to "out of college" ERAU graduates who graduated in the past 1-4 years. I am in no way referring to past ERAU alumni since i have no knowledge about them.

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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 86648)

All the knowledge can be found in FAA approved books. I bet you could study for all your written tests at the library and have no issues.

-LAFF

If you think ALL the knowledge needed to be a competent aviator is the one in the FAA written test, then you are WAY off track....

If you look closely at the FAA question bank you will find several WRONG questions.

ERAU does not have a nationwide recognition. Ask anyone about ERAU and the majority of people have no idea what you're talking about. More people would recognize colorado springs air force academy then ERAU. The truth is ERAU doesn't even have much of a standard, they will accept anyone who pays them. There's good and bad pilots everywhere. How about the ERAU commercial student who took off on a taxiway???? (daytime) I do agree that the education is what you make of it. Yet even if you make the most of it, 40+ grand a year is a bit too much to ask. Buy the jepp books yourself and study them, it's pretty much all you learn in class anyway.

I agree with puppyz. Why would you want to go to a lame school like ERAU. Go to a real college, at the very least there will be chicks to check out. Life isn't all about flying.