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07-25-2007, 10:36 AM

#101

Slice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keiundraj

There's no more valuable time you can get IMO. You and another student going cross country. You make the decisions you practice CRM you plan your route, You get better exprience. Now you can do your cross contries with an instructor who's most likely going to be making all the decisions for you. I exprienced so much doing my cross contries, from flying in the storms, to learing how to deal with type A personalities. It was a good exprience and everyone I've talked to says it's a good exprience. Even the DE I did my Commercial ME couldn't believe they let 2 students fresh out of their Instrument Checkride take $.5million aircraft across contries.

Now to answer your question you get appox 75hrs during your X/C phase.

There's a lot more valuable time out there besides safety pilot. Not to say that there's nothing that can't be learned but two low time guys practicing 'CRM' in a single pilot a/c, well there's only so much that can be done. Also, in the future, you may wish to fly around storms rather than through them...it will do wonders for your longevity on this planet.

07-25-2007, 10:43 AM

#102

keiundraj

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Position: E145 Right Side

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slice

Also, in the future, you may wish to fly around storms rather than through them...it will do wonders for your longevity on this planet.

See that's one of the Lessons I learned, Not to fly through Level 4 Thunderstorms. I've done it once and see what it can do especially to Piper Seminole, when we got down all the paint was gone from the leading edges. Talking about Scared!!!! I've learned my lesson though, if my instructor was in there with me he probally would've told me better. Me and the other pilot were experimenting and we found out the results!

07-27-2007, 10:58 AM

#103

tobaknight

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Joined APC: Jul 2007

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Are there any current or recent ATP instructors here that could tell me which locations you can start instructing at fairly quickly, and which ones will require a wait in the Pit?

07-27-2007, 05:09 PM

#104

keiundraj

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You probably won't have to sit in the PIT they are really hurting for CFIs right now. Last I heard they were 14 CFIs Short!

07-29-2007, 04:21 PM

#105

da_flyn_hawyn

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I'm doing the CFI now and should be done by this week, or that's what they told me... they also told me that it only took two weeks to finish off all the instructor ratings, I think it's week four and no ratings. But I did get an email about if you decide to instruct you get a 500 dollar bonus, free rent during your stans class, free jet transition class(that's about $2,000 or $6,000 outside of ATP), and you can go to any location with out working in the Pit. Sounds pretty good to me.

05-15-2009, 01:28 PM

#106

Stereo2030

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I start ATP in Mesa, AZ in September (hopefully), I also checked out Delta Connection Academy---a no go.

05-15-2009, 03:27 PM

#107

Spoilers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keiundraj

You probably won't have to sit in the PIT they are really hurting for CFIs right now. Last I heard they were 14 CFIs Short!

Last I heard there is a CFI Hiring Waiting List. It's around 70 people right now. And that's just to get to JAX. Some furloughed guys are going back. Don't expect to get a CFI gig with ATP as soon as you are done with the program!

Edit: I just realized this thread was from about 2 years ago!