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Old 12-01-2006, 07:29 PM
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Hi everybody,



I thought I'd see if anyone was familiar with this school ATP Airline Transport Professionals. LAFrequent flier you actually posted the site and I checked it out and the place looks pretty cool with an awesome price. If the UPT thing doesn't work out for me I'm thinking to go this route.

It seems not to be as pricey as Comair and Mesa. Wonder if these guys are getting hired? Look forward to the feedback.


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Old 12-01-2006, 08:12 PM
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Hey man,

Good luck with your choice! I chose ATP myself and I start my training at the DFW location in Jan for the ACPP. If you have any questions let me know I will try and help you answer them as best as possible.


Originally Posted by mprinceton26 View Post
It seems not to be as pricey as Comair and Mesa.
Im not sure what you mean by this...maybe you can explain? As far as I know comair and mesa are only regional airlines and they dont have training programs like this to get your ratings. Like I said thats just as far as I know, if im wrong please forgive me. So far ATP has had 127 of there graduates in the past 12 mos. get hired on with various regional carriers like ExpressJet, Colgan, TSA, Comair, Eagle, and many others.
ATP is an awesome program and I cant wait to start. Hope this helps!

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Old 12-01-2006, 08:25 PM
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Hey Michael,
I'm currently a student @ ATP. I love it! I started in late Aug. and am about to start my X-countrys before my commercial training. I know of @ least three instructors, (one of which trained me) who have been hired in the last month. I think something like 170+ instructors have been hired this year.
The great thing is that the airlines lower their mins. for ATP, because of the level of training. I too looked @ DCA and others. In the last week @ least four instructors from other schools have looked to get hired @ my location. Most had something like 800TT and only 15 hrs multi. I already have twice as many mulit hours and will have almost 140 + Multi by the time I finish the program in Jan. Most instructors are hired with 500-600 TT to airlines like, American Eagle, Continetial Express, PSA, Sky West, Colgan, and a few others. ATP has been by far the best choice. If you have any questions feel free to email me @ [email protected]

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Old 12-02-2006, 05:29 AM
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One thing to keep in mind. . . as with most outfits like All ATPs, the instructors are only there to build enough hours to get hired at somewhere like American Eagle, CoEx, etc. I'm a military guy, but got my ATP through AllATPs and wasn't too impressed by the quality of instruction. The day I did my written was a 20-year-old instructor's first day and my instructor's last week of training before leaving for AE. The guys were nice enough, but didn't seem too interested in teaching me how to pass the checkride. (Thankfully, I passed).
For your sake, I hope the mil route works. I can't speak for all civilian schools, but I thought my mil training was awesome. . . and I operated the kind of equipment at age 24 that I wouldn't have been close to at age 30 on the outside.
Good luck to all,
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I had an experience that was 180 degrees from ATP that was explained above. Yes, my instructor was there building time but how many career flight instructors do you know? She was 32 and still remains to be one of the best instructors that I have ever had, and I, as an instructor, try to model myself after her.

One thing to remember is that as much as ATP seems to train you for the airlines, they are training you to be a very strong, structured and safe pilot. If you finish their course of study, maybe instruct with them for a while, there will be a Regional waiting to interview you. The more successful candidates that come from ATP, the more anxious the airlines are to get their students.

There are other options though. After I finished at ATP, I went and got a commercial Seaplane rating and instructed in those for a while. I went back home and Instructed at a small airport, where I got the chance to fly everything from a few 1946 taildraggers to a Russian Jet-fighter trainer. From there I walked into a job flying a Twin-Otter for a skydiving operation and now I am doing some charter in a Twin Otter, flying boxes in a Beech 99 and flight instructing on the side. And every once and a while I pull gear for a friend in his Citation. I had enough time to go to the regionals 2 years ago, but decided to see what else is out there. And I'm only 23.

I'm not down-playing either path, just reminding you to keep your options open. As far as ATP is concerned, work hard, pay attention and stay one step ahead of everything, and you won't have a problem.

I looked at many other companies when I was making the decision and ATP was the best, hands down. If you are looking for more info, check out some of the other posts on this board, or feel free to PM me.

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I'm glad more people are posting about ATP and their product. Good / bad - people can't make a decision without information...


Like you - someone told me about them. I've done a lot of research and getting into aviation is expensive.

I'm curious about DFW location. How is it? There is a lot of aviation in / around Dallas.

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Originally Posted by spciii View Post
One thing to keep in mind. . . as with most outfits like All ATPs, the instructors are only there to build enough hours to get hired at somewhere like American Eagle, CoEx, etc. I'm a military guy, but got my ATP through AllATPs and wasn't too impressed by the quality of instruction. The day I did my written was a 20-year-old instructor's first day and my instructor's last week of training before leaving for AE. The guys were nice enough, but didn't seem too interested in teaching me how to pass the checkride. (Thankfully, I passed).
For your sake, I hope the mil route works. I can't speak for all civilian schools, but I thought my mil training was awesome. . . and I operated the kind of equipment at age 24 that I wouldn't have been close to at age 30 on the outside.
Good luck to all,
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Are you sure you didn't walk into the FBO next to the ATP office?

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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
I'm curious about DFW location. How is it? There is a lot of aviation in / around Dallas.

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I was only at the Dallas location a little. But from what I remember they have a pretty nice set-up. It is just outside Dallas at Arlington Field (if I remember right) and it is un-towered, unless we were there after the tower closed... There is a lot of corporate stuff going in and out (read: good contacts!). Housing there is awesome and we always ate at this place called Cheddars down the street where the food and beer for two guys was always around $25.

Unfortunately, that is the best I have to offer. I can tell you that it is standardized enough that you can't have bad training, the atmosphere just differs a little place to place.
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I did the 2 week CFI program in JAX great program but be prepared to STUDY due to the short time, but great people and you really do learn alot in the short time, ATP is great thats why I am likely going back for the Regional Jet standards program
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Don't waste your money on the RJ standards course. Everyone will tell you the same - listen to the majority. I normally try to go against the grain but in this case the point is valid - the airlines will train you. Save your money - better yet, invest it and use it later for a interview suit / nice clothes to wear on those exotic regional overnights...<grin>

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