CTPILOT

I rencently just started flight instructing and curious where to find syllabus for instr, and comm so I can follow an organized course outline. Also I am beginning to buy multi time with a friend anyone know the proper way to log flight time I heard mix things. Thanks

AVIVIII

it would be easier if one of you had an MEI....

WhiteH2O

Sporty's sent me a sample private syllabus a few months ago. It looked nice, better than the Jeppeson one that I use where I teach. Don't know about their instrument and commercial, but that is worth a try.

For logging multi, it is a lot better to get an MEI.

multipilot

Jepp syllabus for instrument/commercial is okay. You won't be able to follow it exactly though. I can almost 100% guarantee that an instrument student will need more than three flight lessons on holding procedures.

Get your MEI. I would advise that you do not log multi-time unless you are in the front seat manipulating the flight controls. I've heard of some really stupid ways that people, even though they argue are legal, log multi-time.

I have also heard that airline companies do not count multi-PIC as a safety pilot. A friend of my has an interview with ExpressJet. He was right at 100 hours but they DQed nearly 2 hours of it because it was as a multi-engine safety pilot. He still gets the interview but has to buy more multi-time to meet mins.

CTPILOT

thanks alot for the information ....yeah my friend and I that are both splitting the time are both MEI's.

rickair7777

Most don't have a problem with SP time, I had plenty and nobody ever said anything. You might check with the airlines you are interested in to find out for sure what their policies are.

But I wouldn't go buy an extra 50 hour$ of twin time unless you really need to...

rickair7777

How are you splitting it?

Safety Pilot time is 100% legal and commonly done.

But if you are taking turns giving each other dual on cross-country legs, that is NOT legal and could bite you in the butt. Even though the regs may not cleary state it, the FAA has consistently held that dual is only allowed for legitimate instructional purposes such as:
-Rating/Cert
-BFR
-IPC
-Aircraft Checkout
-Area/ Route familiarization

It would be impossible to make a case for dual-given if you were taking turns giving it to each other in the same airplane! If you are qualified to GIVE dual on a flight, you obviously have no need to receive dual on the return leg! If it's a one-time thing, sure go-ahead nobody would have an issue with that (call it a fam flight).

I'm not sure how the airlines feel about dual-given time building, but I would avoid it just based on the FAA issue. safety Pilot is the "accepted" loophole to share twin time!

LAfrequentflyer

How exactly does safety pilot time work?

One pilot flies with the foggles and the other watches for traffic along the way? On the return leg pilots switch roles?

Also. The safety pilot would log a few minutes less time due to pilot flying the first leg would not be able to use foggles to taxi and takeoff. I assume at 300 feet or so the foggles go on...

-LAFF

rickair7777

You are correct. The industry standard is that the SP deducts 0.3 per leg to account for the hood being off for taxi, TO, and LDG. Example:

1.0 Hour Flight
Joe: Pilot (under the hood)
Jack: SP

Joe logs 1.0 TT, 0.7 simulated IFR, the approache(s) and the LDG.
Jack logs 0.7 TT.

To maximize shareable time, you normally fly all approaches to the missed except for the last one, which terminates in a LDG.

LAfrequentflyer

Good. Thanks...So to recap...SP is legit if done correctly - see above.