737 type schools
 

Without sounding presumptious....I am trying to find total cost of 737 type rating in case the call from SW happens. Looking for recommendations from past experience of different companies and cost of type and lodging, time required for training, etc. Companies to avoid, etc.
Any with payment plans, or are all paid upfront....Thx!

Would anyone care to explain why SW still follows this backwards policy of making its workers pay for the responsibility of training which it should rightfully undertake itself?

It's just a few thousand. Not a big deal, and you can go make money with it elsewhere overseas. Plus you look trainable.

You will not get a call if you don't already have the type. It used to be before you could interview without the type but this around, their minimums specifically say...................


USA DOT/FAA Airline Transport Pilot Certificate. The certificate must display the following:

"Airplane Multiengine Land" Category and Class Ratings

B-737 Type Rating
("B-737 CIRC.APCH.-VMC ONLY" is the only permitted limitation for the "B-737" type rating requirement.)

"English Proficient" limitation.
Plastic certificate (plastic not required if the certificate is a valid temporary certificate.)

But how will applicants know that they'll get a call? If they don't, then they're left ten thousand $ in the hole.

Furthermore, what good is a type-rating without time in said type?

I don't mean to be a pain in the rear by asking so many questions; I'm only genuinely curious, that's all. I would tend to think that a successful airline like SW would be able to afford to train their new-hires like most airlines do.

No that's not what their minimums say, cuz I just looked tonight...


Certificates/Ratings: U.S. FAA Airline Transport Pilot Certificate. Unrestricted U.S. Type Rating on a B-737 not required for interview, but required for employment. "B-737 CIRC.APCH.-VMC ONLY" limitation is accepted.


http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ns/pilots.html

I think Pan Am does a 737 type for pretty cheap, but I'm not positive..

Hard to go wrong with HPA but it's not cheap! It will probably set you back 12k+ after hotel/food/booze (assuming you don't live in Dallas).

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Went here 20 years ago and they were great! I have no idea about today.
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CPT is highly recommended amongst my co-workers. $7300, roughly 10 days of training....plan 2 weeks away. You get the prep materials via mail about 30 days prior and are expected to self study prior to start date.

I went through PanAm in vegas, total cost including hotel was just about $6k plus food and gambling money.

Sure. First, they do it because they can. There is no shortage of people willing to pay for their own type rating. Second, SWA requires a 737 type rating - i.e., SWA does not explicitly require you to pay for anything. If you do not already have one then YOU make the choice to pay for it yourself.

Personally, I call this forward thinking and not "backwards" on the part of the company. Any airline does not exist solely to provide jobs for people - they exist to be profitable.

They do not know. You are correct in saying that one could spend thousands of dollars on a type rating only to never have it pay off in their favor. This is why one must do the pro vs con analysis when contemplating who to work for. Personally, while I really respect SWA and think they are a great company, I refused to pay for my own type rating in the "hopes" of ever getting a call from them. I just did not want to work for them that bad.

It isn't.

I'm a capitalist through and through and a firm believer in free-market economics. The ONLY reason SWA can do this is because the market allows for it - i.e., there is more than an adequate supply of people attaining 737 type ratings (either paying for it themselves or earning one at a different carrier). While I would not pay for my own type rating, at the same time I cannot fault SWA management for requiring a 737 type rating.

Does anyone know someone who waited until they got the job offer before getting the type?

I know several guys who got it beforehand who didn't get an offer......

Seems to me the requirement of a 737 type would need to be validated with current employees. Can they still do that being that now the AirTran guys can't all be typed in the 737? Am I Right?

Really, a 737 type...why? If I'm paying for it, I'd rather get typed in the Concord. What's the sudden fascination with the 737? I think it's an ugly airplane...IMHO

No such thing as a ugly airplane

I know of one guy...had come off the MD-80 at another company, interviewed, got the offer, and I think it was six months to get the 737 type. He did it a couple weeks later, called SWA, and got a class date.

I'd rather be typed in a 737 than a DC9. I think it would be much easier to find a job.

I did the HP B737NG and it was $10K (VA paid). The classic I think runs about $7K. I stayed at a friends place, so I made out there. I would highly recommend HP. Great atmosphere and good instructors!

Well, having CONCORD on your certificate isn't going to get you a job, having B-737 might. And there's nothing sudden about it. For 40 plus years, SW has made money flying 737s. There's not another airline in the US and probably not in the world that can say they've made money 40 years straight.

+ 1,000,000,000.23

Either way, I still would rather fly a Concord around.

Wow.... Thats some post there Happy.... So are you like following me around on the board now??:confused:

You can interview without the type and they will give you the time you need to get the type if they decide to hire you. No need to buy it before hand.

The company should pay for it.

Yea I get that and don't disagree with you... But it's Southwest. They aren't going to change. And the OP is wanting a 73 type to hopefully get a job. All I was telling him was that he doesn't need to type to get the job offer.