Advice on training
11-06-2013, 02:19 PM
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Advice on training
I'm a new Private Pilot as of 12/2012 and I'm now getting ready to pursue my IFR and then commercial and CFI. I received my license at 43 hours and now I'm sitting at 63, with 15 xc.
My question is what is the most cost effective way to get though to commercial from here. Do I go right into IFR and get my 50 xc hours while doing the training? Do I get my 50 xc with another pilot flying buddy, then go into IFR. Do I go to ATP and get a loan on the $50k?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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( I know it's a bad idea, I'll potentially go in debt, hate my life, only eat ramen noodles and drink PBR until I'm flying RJ's at the age of 65, but that's ok, at least I'm not flying a desk)
My question is what is the most cost effective way to get though to commercial from here. Do I go right into IFR and get my 50 xc hours while doing the training? Do I get my 50 xc with another pilot flying buddy, then go into IFR. Do I go to ATP and get a loan on the $50k?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
PS:
( I know it's a bad idea, I'll potentially go in debt, hate my life, only eat ramen noodles and drink PBR until I'm flying RJ's at the age of 65, but that's ok, at least I'm not flying a desk)
11-06-2013, 05:19 PM
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Get the instrument rating, then see where you end up in the X/C column. Convince your instructor to spend less time on burning holes in the sky doing basic instrument patterns, and more time flying to other airports practicing course tracking, navigating via a chart, talking to ATC, and approaches.
Advantage: now you can rack up the X/C time while practicing your instrument skills with another buddy.
Disclaimer: I'm not purposely dissing basic instrument skills. They are FAR, FAAAR more important than anything else in the syllabus.
Advantage: now you can rack up the X/C time while practicing your instrument skills with another buddy.
Disclaimer: I'm not purposely dissing basic instrument skills. They are FAR, FAAAR more important than anything else in the syllabus.
11-06-2013, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackPaw
My question is what is the most cost effective way to get though to commercial from here.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Use said job to pay for certs and ratings while you are eating ramen and drinking PBR.
11-06-2013, 07:13 PM
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Try to retire on ramen noodles. Think about your skills and future rather than I want to be a pilot, I have a passion". There are worse things than "flying a desk"; flying an RJ at 65 is certainly worse.
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11-07-2013, 05:08 AM
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate it!
I do have a good paying job now working 3-12 hour shifts/week which gives me plenty of time to fly, and I plan on keeping it through my training. I also have little debt, no kids, and a supportive wife.
If anyone else has any input please advise!
I do have a good paying job now working 3-12 hour shifts/week which gives me plenty of time to fly, and I plan on keeping it through my training. I also have little debt, no kids, and a supportive wife.
If anyone else has any input please advise!
11-07-2013, 05:28 AM
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Everybody (esp in this section of the forums) wants to discover/manipulate/finesse some secret plan through all their ratings...
While I'm all for innovation and roads less traveled; if there was some secret easy road to build tons of XC and IFR time, and breeze through ratings, why do you think everyone is doing the same thing? ie: Private, Instrument, Commercial, CFI.
I believe this type of thinking is how guys get suckered into buying A320 type ratings, etc with a wet commercial before they even have a CFI. Sure, you can get the type rating, but it won't do you a lot of good without the time...
Ramble, ramble, ramble.
While I'm all for innovation and roads less traveled; if there was some secret easy road to build tons of XC and IFR time, and breeze through ratings, why do you think everyone is doing the same thing? ie: Private, Instrument, Commercial, CFI.
I believe this type of thinking is how guys get suckered into buying A320 type ratings, etc with a wet commercial before they even have a CFI. Sure, you can get the type rating, but it won't do you a lot of good without the time...
Ramble, ramble, ramble.
11-07-2013, 09:30 AM
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Thanks CubiclePilot. I'm not looking for a secret way, just the best/most efficient.
They are a lot of options, but it seems like for me the best would be to get the majority of my xc miles while getting my instrument training as Toonces suggested.
The other option out there that it seems there are widely varied opinions on is the "all at once" like US Aviation Academy or ATP, but adding up the cost flying where I am and keeping a FT job is quite a bit less expensive. I get a 152 for $70 wet and a 182 w retracts for $145 wet.
They are a lot of options, but it seems like for me the best would be to get the majority of my xc miles while getting my instrument training as Toonces suggested.
The other option out there that it seems there are widely varied opinions on is the "all at once" like US Aviation Academy or ATP, but adding up the cost flying where I am and keeping a FT job is quite a bit less expensive. I get a 152 for $70 wet and a 182 w retracts for $145 wet.
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